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Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Tuesday, 23 April 2024, at 12:15 p.m.

In Response To: I have all the time in the world (Timothy Chow)

…if you decided to play 23/18, because that is XG 3-ply's choice.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 92
7 point match
pip: 129
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=a-BBBBB---A----A-bAcbdbBa-:1:1:1:53:0:0:0:7:10
Blue to play 53

1.3-ply23/18 15/12eq: +0.780
Player:
Opponent:
71.69% (G:8.10% B:0.25%)
28.31% (G:10.69% B:0.44%)
2.3-ply18/13 10/7eq: +0.751 (-0.029)
Player:
Opponent:
71.27% (G:8.83% B:0.24%)
28.73% (G:7.25% B:0.42%)
3.3-ply23/15eq: +0.746 (-0.034)
Player:
Opponent:
71.10% (G:8.41% B:0.28%)
28.90% (G:11.74% B:0.55%)
4.3-ply23/18 10/7eq: +0.744 (-0.036)
Player:
Opponent:
72.84% (G:9.77% B:0.29%)
27.16% (G:12.86% B:0.59%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release, MET: Kazaross XG2


But the rollout says that 23/18 is a whopper with cheese:





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 92
7 point match
pip: 129
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=a-BBBBB---A----A-bAcbdbBa-:1:1:1:53:0:0:0:7:10
Blue to play 53

1.Rollout118/13 10/7eq: +0.932
Player:
Opponent:
73.76% (G:9.82% B:0.26%)
26.24% (G:7.83% B:0.62%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (+0.928...+0.936) - [100.0%]
Duration: 17.2 seconds
2.Rollout123/18 15/12eq: +0.777 (-0.155)
Player:
Opponent:
72.09% (G:10.16% B:0.60%)
27.91% (G:12.02% B:0.33%)
Conf.: ± 0.005 (+0.771...+0.782) - [0.0%]
Duration: 48.5 seconds
 
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release, MET: Kazaross XG2


However, rambiz rightly raised the question of the cube decision before the roll. XG 3-ply does not double, but the rollout below indicates a small double.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 92
7 point match
pip: 129
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=a-BBBBB---A----A-bAcbdbBa-:1:1:1:00:0:0:0:7:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
  Player Winning Chances: 71.58% (G:10.36% B:0.55%) 72.48% (G:11.18% B:0.84%)
  Opponent Winning Chances: 28.42% (G:9.55% B:0.68%) 27.52% (G:9.97% B:1.57%)
  Cubeless Equities +0.439 +0.955
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0.792 (-0.027)±0.011 (+0.780..+0.803)
Redouble/Take:+0.819±0.014 (+0.805..+0.833)
Redouble/Pass:+1.000 (+0.181)
 
Best Cube action: Redouble / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
 
Double Decision confidence:99.8%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 2 minutes 25 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release, MET: Kazaross XG2


That might seem like a small difference, but watch what happens if we roll out the checker-play decision with the cube turned:





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 92
7 point match
pip: 129
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=a-BBBBB---A----A-bAcbdbBa-:2:-1:1:53:0:0:0:7:10
Blue to play 53

1.Rollout118/13 10/7eq: +0.476
Player:
Opponent:
75.67% (G:10.95% B:0.62%)
24.33% (G:7.70% B:1.44%)
Conf.: ± 0.006 (+0.470...+0.483) - [100.0%]
Duration: 1 minute 34 seconds
2.Rollout123/18 10/7eq: +0.457 (-0.019)
Player:
Opponent:
75.13% (G:12.67% B:1.34%)
24.87% (G:13.52% B:0.99%)
Conf.: ± 0.006 (+0.451...+0.463) - [0.0%]
Duration: 1 minute 39 seconds
 
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release, MET: Kazaross XG2

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