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Threw a 32 -- Rollout (at DMP, too) and terms

Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Thursday, 19 February 2026, at 1:23 a.m.

In Response To: Threw a 32 (Nack Ballard)

I thought of the term "banana split" in the late 1970's (a couple/few years after I learned backgammon). However, then I heard a couple of other players use it before it could likely have reached them through word of mouth originating from me. I think it's just one of those puns that suggests itself and we will probably never know who (or where) came up with it first.

As to what "banana split" means... I meant it to mean any play that breaks one's own inner board point in order to hit a blot, and in the process leaving two new inside blots. It doesn't necessarily mean also breaking an anchor, though I've heard it used to mean that specifically.

I suggest something like "banana split with nuts" (or with fudge or with whipped cream or with a cherry on top?) to refer to a specific type of banana split that not only goes bananas in the inner board but also breaks another point on the board, thereby creating two new non-inside blots (in addition to the two new inside blots).

Below is a rollout of the position I posted. It is somewhat similar to one that Laila Leonhardt recently posted on FB. [Blue has his 9pt, blot on 8pt, and five-point board missing the 2pt. White has three on each of her midpoint, 8pt, 6pt and 4pt, two on 1pt, blot on 23pt.] In that alternate position, the best play is a regular banana split, no nuts (well, one nut).

There is further discussion underneath the rollout.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 105
7 point match
pip: 111
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BBaBBB--AB----c--cd--bBb-:1:-1:1:32:0:0:0:7:10
Original Position, with score 0-0 to 7

1.Rollout110/8 6/3* eq: -0.252
Player:
Opponent:
49.35% (G:14.53% B:0.08%)
50.65% (G:21.80% B:2.57%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.256...-0.247) - [99.9%]
Duration: 25 minutes 49 seconds
2.Rollout16/3* 5/3eq: -0.262 (-0.010)
Player:
Opponent:
48.15% (G:13.00% B:0.07%)
51.85% (G:17.13% B:1.39%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.266...-0.257) - [0.1%]
Duration: 21 minutes 23 seconds
3.Rollout16/4 6/3* eq: -0.262 (-0.010)
Player:
Opponent:
47.74% (G:9.96% B:0.09%)
52.26% (G:12.11% B:0.85%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.266...-0.259) - [0.0%]
Duration: 23 minutes 42 seconds
4.Rollout210/7 5/3* eq: -0.283 (-0.032)
Player:
Opponent:
48.31% (G:14.13% B:0.07%)
51.69% (G:22.98% B:2.65%)
Conf.: ± 0.009 (-0.292...-0.275) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 55 seconds
5.Rollout29/6 5/3* eq: -0.287 (-0.036)
Player:
Opponent:
46.74% (G:11.66% B:0.08%)
53.26% (G:12.58% B:0.90%)
Conf.: ± 0.008 (-0.296...-0.279) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 33 seconds
6.Rollout26/3* 3/1eq: -0.307 (-0.055)
Player:
Opponent:
46.32% (G:8.94% B:0.08%)
53.68% (G:13.61% B:0.94%)
Conf.: ± 0.007 (-0.314...-0.300) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 24 seconds
7.Rollout29/7 6/3* eq: -0.323 (-0.071)
Player:
Opponent:
45.82% (G:11.75% B:0.08%)
54.18% (G:16.84% B:1.17%)
Conf.: ± 0.008 (-0.331...-0.315) - [0.0%]
Duration: 3 minutes 55 seconds
8.Rollout223/21 6/3* eq: -0.325 (-0.073)
Player:
Opponent:
47.57% (G:15.51% B:0.09%)
52.43% (G:26.96% B:3.48%)
Conf.: ± 0.009 (-0.334...-0.316) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 35 seconds
9.Rollout223/20 5/3* eq: -0.361 (-0.109)
Player:
Opponent:
46.61% (G:14.74% B:0.09%)
53.39% (G:27.09% B:3.74%)
Conf.: ± 0.008 (-0.369...-0.353) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 08 seconds
10.Rollout210/7 9/7eq: -0.373 (-0.121)
Player:
Opponent:
43.75% (G:7.09% B:0.07%)
56.25% (G:8.41% B:0.54%)
Conf.: ± 0.006 (-0.380...-0.367) - [0.0%]
Duration: 3 minutes 54 seconds
11.Rollout29/4eq: -0.412 (-0.160)
Player:
Opponent:
41.95% (G:6.77% B:0.09%)
58.05% (G:8.09% B:0.38%)
Conf.: ± 0.007 (-0.419...-0.405) - [0.0%]
Duration: 3 minutes 44 seconds
1 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 49849457
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

2 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 49849457
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

If the rollout is right, then according to my definitions, six of the top nine plays (#1, #4, #5, #7, #8 and #9) are all banana splits, and #3 meets the spirit of the term (one less point and two more blots inside). Four of the nine (#1, #4, #8 and #9) are banana splits with nuts.

For reference, below is a rollout of the same position at DMP: Again, most of the top 9 are banana splits, and this time the nutty banana splits are clustered closer to the top: #1, #2, #5 and #7.

Nack





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 105
1 point match
pip: 111
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BBaBBB--AB----c--cd--bBb-:0:0:1:32:0:0:0:1:10
DMP: #1, #2, #5, #6, #7 and #9 are banana splits;
#1, #2, #5 and #7 are nutty

1.Rollout110/8 6/3* eq: -0.001
Player:
Opponent:
49.94% (G:9.96% B:0.02%)
50.06% (G:22.31% B:4.58%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.005...+0.003) - [100.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 55 seconds
2.Rollout110/7 5/3* eq: -0.019 (-0.018)
Player:
Opponent:
49.03% (G:10.64% B:0.04%)
50.97% (G:24.42% B:5.73%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.024...-0.015) - [0.0%]
Duration: 5 minutes 13 seconds
3.Rollout16/3* 5/3eq: -0.027 (-0.025)
Player:
Opponent:
48.67% (G:8.81% B:0.02%)
51.33% (G:17.94% B:3.08%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.031...-0.023) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 18 seconds
4.Rollout16/4 6/3* eq: -0.046 (-0.045)
Player:
Opponent:
47.68% (G:8.19% B:0.04%)
52.32% (G:12.26% B:1.07%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.050...-0.043) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 27 seconds
5.Rollout123/21 6/3* eq: -0.051 (-0.049)
Player:
Opponent:
47.47% (G:9.97% B:0.05%)
52.53% (G:26.12% B:1.77%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.054...-0.047) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 21 seconds
6.Rollout19/6 5/3* eq: -0.051 (-0.050)
Player:
Opponent:
47.45% (G:8.84% B:0.04%)
52.55% (G:13.95% B:1.28%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.055...-0.047) - [0.0%]
Duration: 4 minutes 35 seconds
7.Rollout223/20 5/3* eq: -0.068 (-0.066)
Player:
Opponent:
46.62% (G:11.23% B:0.03%)
53.38% (G:28.36% B:2.73%)
Conf.: ± 0.005 (-0.072...-0.063) - [0.0%]
Duration: 3 minutes 08 seconds
8.Rollout36/3* 3/1eq: -0.072 (-0.071)
Player:
Opponent:
46.39% (G:7.91% B:0.03%)
53.61% (G:13.03% B:1.10%)
Conf.: ± 0.005 (-0.077...-0.068) - [0.0%]
Duration: 3 minutes 22 seconds
9.Rollout29/7 6/3* eq: -0.075 (-0.073)
Player:
Opponent:
46.27% (G:8.30% B:0.01%)
53.73% (G:17.16% B:2.31%)
Conf.: ± 0.006 (-0.080...-0.069) - [0.0%]
Duration: 2 minutes 57 seconds
10.Rollout310/7 9/7eq: -0.130 (-0.128)
Player:
Opponent:
43.52% (G:6.01% B:0.02%)
56.48% (G:9.05% B:0.69%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.134...-0.125) - [0.0%]
Duration: 2 minutes 44 seconds
11.Rollout45/2 5/3* eq: -0.141 (-0.140)
Player:
Opponent:
42.95% (G:6.07% B:0.00%)
57.05% (G:14.77% B:1.16%)
Conf.: ± 0.005 (-0.146...-0.136) - [0.0%]
Duration: 3 minutes 25 seconds
12.Rollout29/4eq: -0.163 (-0.162)
Player:
Opponent:
41.84% (G:4.40% B:0.00%)
58.16% (G:8.43% B:0.29%)
Conf.: ± 0.004 (-0.167...-0.159) - [0.0%]
Duration: 2 minutes 15 seconds
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 49841853
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

2 764 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 49841853
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

3 765 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 49841853
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

4 763 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 49841853
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

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