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Position of the Day 03-15-26 - Rollout - XG the fishcake
Posted By: Stick In Response To: Position of the Day 03-15-26 (Stick)
Date: Sunday, 22 March 2026, at 2:24 a.m.
Everyone in the responses took. This is one of those positions I knew would get worse and worse for the player being doubled as we go up the XG scale of 3 ply/4 ply/XGR/XGR +/XGR ++. XG has an issue accurately seeing far enough ahead in these types of positions. First, here's the analysis on varying non full rollout settings.
- 3 ply: RT worth 0.796 (barely a double by .012)
- 4 ply: RT worth 0.782 (barely a double by .017
- XGR: RT worth 0.848
- XGR+: RT worth 0.874
- XGR++: RT worth 0.926
Now we move on to our default 3 ply/XGR rollout results and then a more robust rollout. With every step in strength we take the doubler's position becomes stronger. On this particular position I suppose you could argue it doesn't matter, everything has it as a DT. However for those folks who may look at the simple XG analysis and then try to store it in memory for later use of any similar positions, it makes quite a difference if this is barely a double or barely a take.
White is Player 1
score: 0
pip: 70Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 126
score: 0
Blue is Player 2XGID=-BBDBDa-----b-ab--bcbb--A-:1:-1:-1:00:0:0:3:0:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 76.34% (G:3.55% B:0.06%) 77.25% (G:3.99% B:0.09%) Opponent Winning Chances: 23.66% (G:5.34% B:0.04%) 22.75% (G:5.78% B:0.04%) Cubeless Equities +0.509 +1.055 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0.855 (-0.126) ±0.004 (+0.852..+0.859) Redouble/Take: +0.982 ±0.005 (+0.977..+0.987) Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.018) Best Cube action: Redouble / Take Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 2 minutes 15 seconds
Higher level rollout
White is Player 1
score: 0
pip: 70Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 126
score: 0
Blue is Player 2XGID=-BBDBDa-----b-ab--bcbb--A-:1:-1:-1:00:0:0:3:0:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 76.28% (G:3.49% B:0.05%) 77.55% (G:3.80% B:0.09%) Opponent Winning Chances: 23.72% (G:5.29% B:0.05%) 22.45% (G:5.68% B:0.05%) Cubeless Equities +0.508 +1.066 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0.855 (-0.136) ±0.006 (+0.849..+0.861) Redouble/Take: +0.991 ±0.008 (+0.983..+0.999) Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.009) Best Cube action: Redouble / Take Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: XG Roller++, cube decisions: XG Roller
Search interval: GiganticDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 98.6% Duration: 5 hours 59 minutes
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