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Is a beaver always a take or "Oh shit, what now?"

Posted By: MK
Date: Saturday, 20 June 2026, at 10:50 p.m.

Recently I have been denouncing bots for not being able to correctly reproduce pasted/opened positions with cube offered and I will post more about it but before that I want to explain (and perhaps to get explained/corrected by you all) why it matters.

Simple cube actions are simple, right? Beavers are more complex and require higher cube skills, right? And at least hypothetically you can exploit your opponent's weakness (and/or strongness), right?

So, imagine you knowingly double when it's no-double/take or even no-double/beaver for some reasons of your own, such as to size up an opponent of unknown cube skill, exploit an opponent prone to wrongly drop, bait an irritable opponent to take, etc.

If the opponent's response is what you expected, (even a beaver), I guess you are fine. But what if you get beavered unexpectedly and say "Oh shit, what now?"

Do you ever drop a beaver? Even against a weaker opponent based on the fact that cube maginifies luck and thus favors the weaker player?

Whatever you decided in real time, what if you wanted to go back to that position and ask the bot's opinion about which was the right decision?

Unless you can say that you would never need to do that, then not being able to save that position as text or file and later paste or open it back to analyse is a problem.

Of course, beyond being a problem, what I find really intrigueing about this is why all bots have a "shared" problem with such a simple task to begin with!?

MK

PS: I don't consider bots unquestionably stronger opponents but accepting them as such because you all do, I will post separately about exploiting bots by baiting them to beaver in some positions, (even opening positions), that they misevaluate.