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Illustrated: What da heck is "No Double / Reject"?
Posted By: MK In Response To: What da heck is "No Double / Reject"? (Stick)
Date: Thursday, 30 July 2026, at 9:55 a.m.
> Frank's first language isn't English so I would have chalked it up to a translation issue.
It looks you misunderstood my sarcastic comments about the "translation" issue.
There is no such issue. I searched here and in RGB, just to double-check that Frank has been using the word "drop" in all his postings since he launched BGBuzzt in 2002(?). Only his bot uses the word "reject". Probably a (questionable) remnant of the old days when "accept/reject" was as common or more than "take/drop". But this is really not the issue at all. So, let's assume "reject" means "drop" and address the real problem here.
If you replicate a 36-trial rollout using the random seed value "7", (I picked 7 just because the horizon value above it is 7), after the 8th trial you will see this:
BGBlitz Position Diagram
Cube Action: No Double / Reject No Double 1.000 Double / Take 1.000 0.000 Double / Reject 1.000 0.000 And if you keep watching, after the 11th trial you will see this:
BGBlitz Position Diagram
Cube Action: Too good to double / Reject No Double 1.083 Double / Take 1.091 -0.008 Double / Reject 1.000 0.091 So, they are not the same. Now that I clarified it for you (all), I'm asking again "What da heck is "No Double / Drop"? (with the correct translation;)
It sounds illogical to me but what da hell do I know...? Has anyone of you seen XG or GnuBG suggest "No Double / Drop" as the proper cube action? (I haven't)
Furthermore, why would anyone do money game rollouts with a garbage bot that doesn't know what "beaver" is? (It's totally boring to play money games against BGBuzzt without it also).
Lets take the cube decision after the opening 63.
XGID=-a----EaC---dE-a-c-e----B-:0:0:1:00:0:0:2:0:10
Even a novice would know that it's "No Double / Beaver", right? But not BGBuzzt. :(
Until two thirds the way in a 36 trial rollout, it says "No Double / Take" and then consistently says "Double / Take" until the end. See:
BGBlitz Position Diagram
Cube Action: Double / Take Double / Take -1.167 No Double -1.278 0.111 Double / Reject 1.000 -2.278 I don't just fart around here like most of you people do. I present my comments and arguments with illustrated facts.
Maybe some unsuspecting beginners reading Frank's advertisements, with false claims, on Reddit, etc. may fall for paying for this garbage bg bot, but I honestly fail to understand what perhaps "real pro" people like "stick", "Bob", et.al. find in this "fake pro" bg bot...?
Maybe you are just pitching in to support Frank out of pity...??
MK
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