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Rollout - Really?

Posted By: Stick
Date: Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 9:00 a.m.

In Response To: Neil v. Stick Novi Finals (Game 6) #31 (Stick)

I'm sorry I didn't also roll out 9/4 9/3 but I think it's dead wrong. It was 5th I think on 2 ply but for me, it's one of these two plays. I'm flabberghasted that 18/7 is wrong by so much. I could cop to it being wrong by up to maybe .04, tops, but .09!? Insane .. I guess the race is pretty damn close after the roll and it does more harm than good back there in the long run. White also doesn't have any immediate harmful blot leaving numbers since he can play from the defensive 10pt and I am also blotted in my home board.

The score (after 5 games) is: Neil_Kazaross 5, Stick_Rice 3 (match to 13 points)

Move number 20: Stick_Rice to play 65

Neil_Kazaross	136
Stick_Rice	152
Position ID: sPOMGQDE2wZwEA Match ID: cAm3AVAAGAAA

• Stick_Rice moves 18/7

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	23/18 9/3	-0.394
			0.382 0.023 0.001 - 0.618 0.020 0.001 -0.233 -0.394 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.006
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			999 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 833583536 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	2	R	18/7	-0.482 ( -0.088)
			0.370 0.030 0.001 - 0.630 0.060 0.003 -0.292 -0.482 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.002 0.000 0.003 0.007
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			998 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 833583536 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• Neil v. Stick Novi Finals (Game 6) #31
  Stick -- Saturday, 26 July 2008, at 10:15 a.m.
  • Neil v. Stick Novi Finals (Game 6) #31
    Ian Dunstan -- Saturday, 26 July 2008, at 12:17 p.m.
  • Neil v. Stick Novi Finals (Game 6) #31
    Philippe Michel -- Saturday, 26 July 2008, at 1:16 p.m.
  • Rollout - Really?
    Stick -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 9:00 a.m.
    • Rollout - Really?
      neilkaz -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 3:03 p.m.
    • Rollout - Really?
      David Montgomery -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 5:53 p.m.
      • Rollout - Really?
        Philippe Michel -- Monday, 28 July 2008, at 7:11 p.m.
        • Thanks - NM *NM*
          David Montgomery -- Tuesday, 29 July 2008, at 1:56 a.m.