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Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 10:38 p.m.

In Response To: Backgames (Klaus Evers)

Do you still have those games, and positions? Do I remember correctly that you had been up by a huge amount of points?

I don't find them on my current hard drive, sorry. If I saved them, they're on the one that crashed last year.

My recollection is that a year or more ago, perhaps early Summer 2007, I played money games vs. Gnubg, seeking to play a massive backgame nearly every time, and soon racked up a huge point advantage. My success was due partly to Gnubg's willingness to give me happy-beaver cubes just because I had five or eight or eleven men back, and mostly because of Gnubg's later gross misevaluations of cube action in post-backgame post-hit snakelike positions.

After I posted some positions and session results at Gammon University, Casper and one or two other Readers posted that they were similarly able to beat the bot this way. I don't remember when exactly that was, but in August '07 Stick quoted me as having written: "I'd back myself against Gnubg in a money session, and I think most any expert-whatever player should be able to similarly exploit Gnubg's weakness with cube decisions in massive backgames and snake positions."

Messages In This Thread

• GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
  Stick -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 12:04 a.m.
  • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
    neilkaz -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 12:11 a.m.
    • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
      Klaus Evers -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 12:54 a.m.
      • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
        neilkaz -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 12:59 a.m.
        • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
          Stick -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 1:05 a.m.
          • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
            Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 1:21 a.m.
            • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
              Stick -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 1:25 a.m.
              • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
                Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 6:35 p.m.
                • Backgames
                  Klaus Evers -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 8:05 p.m.
                  • Backgames
                    Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 10:38 p.m.
      • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
        Stick -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 1:05 a.m.
        • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
          neilkaz -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 4:36 a.m.
  • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
    Ian Dunstan -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 1:46 a.m.
  • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
    John O'Hagan -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 2:23 a.m.
  • Who wins?
    dc-ohio -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 4:40 a.m.
  • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 7:57 a.m.
    • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
      Stick -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 8:02 a.m.
      • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
        Christian Munk-Christensen -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 8:08 a.m.
        • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
          Stick -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 8:25 a.m.
          • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
            Christian Munk-Christensen -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 8:48 a.m.
  • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
    rew -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 9:26 a.m.
    • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
      Stick -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 9:28 a.m.
      • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
        rew -- Sunday, 27 July 2008, at 10:10 a.m.
  • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Sunday, 3 August 2008, at 9:44 a.m.
    • GNU. v. Stick, DMP Matches
      Stick -- Sunday, 3 August 2008, at 12:01 p.m.