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3rd roll pos. (54, 61, 42)

Posted By: David Rockwell
Date: Friday, 5 September 2008, at 1:12 a.m.

In Response To: 3rd roll pos. (54, 61, 42) (jdg)

Excellent counter-example. I see three things worth noting.

1. Obviously, the five point is better than the four point. This gets us leaning towards 8-5, 6-5.

2. When you play 24-20 with a 4-2, you get to play 13-11 as a bonus. You don't get the bonus after playing 24-20 with a 3-1. The stack on the mid-point remains. The value of the defensive play is less which gets us leaning away from 24-20.

3. Notice that threes play well after 42P. Most of them are used to play 8-5*. The four point doesn't block anything next shake. However, fours play poorly after 31P. With the five point open, many of them would be played 24-20 trying to make an advanced anchor. After the five point is made, an inferior four must be chosen. So, making the five point has a significant immediate effect on play. This pushes us over the top favoring 8-5, 6-5.

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