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Posted By: Daniel Murphy In Response To: Rollout (Matt Cohn-Geier)
Date: Friday, 26 September 2008, at 7:11 p.m.
Quote: ohh 195 trials not enough to persuade 7-5 is better it needs more i guess..
I like to run rollouts until the JSD exceeds 3.0 -- a reasonable but arbitrary round number. By that standard, 195 trials is (very close to) "enough."
When published rollouts don't report the JSD, I might add the SD of play 1 and the SD of play 2, and double the sum. If that sum is less than the difference between the two plays, then the rollout is long enough. So again 195 trials is enough, since 2*(0.0027 + 0.0027 = 0.0108, slightly less than 0.0111.
Play EMG 1 SD EMG +/- 1 SD EMG +/- 2 SDs EMG +/- 3 SDs Rank/no. JSD 7/5 2/1* 0.7259 0.0030 0.7229 - 0.7289 0.7199 - 0.7319 0.7169 - 0.7349 16/14 2/1* 0.7151 0.0027 0.7124 0.7178 0.7097 - 0.7205 0.7070 - 0.7232 Trials Rank (16/14 2/1*) behind by (EMG) SD (7/5 2/1*) SD 16/14 2/1* JSD 36 2 0.0134 0.0045 0.0079 1.478 72 2 0.0114 0.0040 0.0046 1.879 108 2 0.0098 0.0034 0.0035 1.991 144 2 0.0087 0.0030 0.0032 1.989 180 2 0.0093 0.0028 0.0028 2.349 195 2 0.0111 0.0027 0.0027 2.944 216 2 0.0105 0.0026 0.0026 2.938 252 2 0.0115 0.0025 0.0024 3.311 288 2 0.0103 0.0024 0.0023 3.157 324 2 0.0103 0.0022 0.0021 3.319 The score (after 0 games) is: Stick 6, Gang 13 (match to 17 points)
Move number 5: Gang to play 12
Stick 47
Gang 72 Position ID: f98AACDedgsgAA Match ID: UokoAmAAaAAA
• Gang moves 7/5 2/1*
# Ply Move Equity • 1 R 7/5 2/1* +0.7230
0.8652 0.0496 0.0040 - 0.1348 0.0040 0.0000 +0.7230 +0.7230 0.0013 0.0113 0.0022 - 0.0013 0.0007 0.0000 0.0027 0.0027 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 195 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 838302616 and quasi-random dice Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] 2 R 16/14 2/1* +0.7119 ( -0.0111)
0.8758 0.0482 0.0014 - 0.1242 0.0213 0.0001 +0.7119 +0.7119 0.0013 0.0120 0.0009 - 0.0013 0.0009 0.0001 0.0027 0.0027 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 195 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 838302616 and quasi-random dice Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
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