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My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond

Posted By: Barry Silliman
Date: Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 11:15 p.m.

In Response To: My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond (neilkaz)

I'd like to see 15 seconds delay become the standard rather than 12 seconds. Probably my second biggest complaint is weak shaking of the dice. The shorter time delay may cause players to feel rushed and not give the dice the adequate shake they deserve. I actually think 2/15 is a very good setting that is a good compromise between giving adequate time to think in crucial spots while still discouraging ridiculously slow play. I wouldn't mind seeing it permanent. I doubt it if it would scare more than a very very small number of players away.

We should be careful about lowering it. The lower the settings the go, the more players will be scared off. And is one year enough? Many players only go to a small number of ABT events in a year.

But of the choice between 2/12 and 1.5/15 I think I'd prefer 1.5/15 for reasons stated above. Especially if we'll get that extra 30 second boost from rounding up which all odd-point match lengths will get.

I'd prefer to just see matches being lost if they're flagged, it can prevent some kinds of gamesmanship that Bob Koca mentioned in a previous post. For example, I saw a match in Baltimore where player A is losing at 11-away, 10-away with the cube on 16. Why not just wait the clock out and take two penalty points. Quite a difference!!

Messages In This Thread

• My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
  neilkaz -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 7:01 p.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    Stick -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 7:24 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 7:39 p.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    Bob Koca -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 7:37 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      neilkaz -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 9:12 p.m.
      • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
        Bob Koca -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 11:04 p.m.
        • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
          Jason Lee -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 2:22 a.m.
        • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
          Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 9:39 p.m.
          • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
            neilkaz -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 10:06 p.m.
            • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
              Barry Silliman -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 10:41 p.m.
              • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 10:47 p.m.
              • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
                Stick -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 10:59 p.m.
      • From part of the "silent majority"
        Dave -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 11:18 p.m.
        • From part of the "silent majority"
          Chuck Bower -- Monday, 27 October 2008, at 4:13 p.m.
          • From part of the "silent majority"
            Bob Koca -- Monday, 27 October 2008, at 5:30 p.m.
            • From part of the "silent majority"
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 27 October 2008, at 5:53 p.m.
            • From part of the "silent majority"
              Chuck Bower -- Monday, 27 October 2008, at 6:17 p.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    Frank_N_Stein -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 10:46 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Barry Silliman -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 10:58 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 2:26 p.m.
      • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
        Jason Lee -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 3:55 p.m.
      • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
        Frank_N_Stein -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 7:53 p.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    Barry Silliman -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 11:15 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Dave -- Saturday, 25 October 2008, at 11:50 p.m.
      • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
        Dan Pelton -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 1:40 a.m.
        • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
          Barry Silliman -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 5:12 a.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    Jason Lee -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 2:24 a.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Dan Pelton -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 3:49 a.m.
      • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
        Jason Lee -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 4:16 a.m.
        • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
          Dan Pelton -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 5:26 a.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 4:03 a.m.
    • Crawford game
      Dan Pelton -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 5:17 a.m.
      • Crawford game
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 5:23 a.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Stick -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 6:26 a.m.
      • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 4:42 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Frank_N_Stein -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 2:13 p.m.
      • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 4:35 p.m.
        • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
          Frank_N_Stein -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 7:47 p.m.
        • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
          MFIC -- Tuesday, 28 October 2008, at 6:31 a.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    Steve Mellen -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 2:26 p.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    mamabear -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 4:34 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 5:00 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 9:10 p.m.
  • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
    neilkaz -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 4:45 p.m.
    • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 4:51 p.m.
      • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
        neilkaz -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 7:11 p.m.
      • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
        Dan Pelton -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 8:44 p.m.
        • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 8:56 p.m.
        • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
          neilkaz -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 9:27 p.m.
    • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
      Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 9:04 p.m.
    • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
      Dan Pelton -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 9:16 p.m.
      • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
        Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 9:30 p.m.
        • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
          neilkaz -- Sunday, 26 October 2008, at 9:35 p.m.
          • OK one ammendment..if you run out of time you lose in 2009 also....
            Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 27 October 2008, at 1:18 a.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    MFIC -- Tuesday, 28 October 2008, at 6:04 a.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 28 October 2008, at 2:04 p.m.
  • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
    Harvey Gillis -- Tuesday, 4 November 2008, at 4:14 p.m.
    • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 4 November 2008, at 4:35 p.m.
      • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
        Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 4 November 2008, at 5:24 p.m.
        • My clock proposal for ABT events for 2009 and beyond
          Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 4 November 2008, at 9:09 p.m.