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Cube action

Posted By: Keene
Date: Wednesday, 26 November 2008, at 3:24 p.m.

In Response To: Cube action (Mislav Radica)

Mislav: I don't care for money game and cube at 16, sorry.

It doesnt matter what the cube value is. I could have put it at 256, its still a Redouble or No Redouble situation, and its still a Pass / Take / Beaver option.

If you dont care for playing money games when the cube gets to the 16 level, then I suggest you are playing for stakes that are too high for you. No disrespect intended.

As for this one, how did it get to 16? I shipped a cube from here: (and no, I didnt roll a 32 either, it was something poor, 63 or similar)

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 0

Move number 3: Blue on roll, cube decision

White109


1X2O3X2X3X2X '2X ' ' ' '

2X ' ' '3O3O3O3O ' ' '1O

Blue136

Position ID: ud0MADBwd4cAGA Match ID: cIkJAAAAAAAA

• Blue doubles

Cube decision
2-ply cubeless equity +0.543
0.710 0.209 0.007 - 0.290 0.090 0.003
Cubeful equities:
1.Double, take +0.889
2.Double, pass +1.000 +0.111
3.No double +0.698 -0.191
Proper cube action:Double, take

Which my opponent decided to beaver, which I of course raccooned. (turned up to 8). About 3 rolls later, I had rolled very poorly, and been hit in my homeboard, and was reshipped the 16 cube, which I took. It was borderline. I then rolled super well and went to a swift "Wayyyy Too Good" situation. Some more exchanges, and I am rubbing my hands with delight at the prospect of winning a gammon on the 16 cube. Then I rolled a ball busting 63 whilst bearing in against 4 men back (on my ace and 4pts), which blotted twice, and was hit twice, to find myself in the position I posted.

So, to be clear, this was a real game, a real position, and the cube wasnt a series of wrong actions to get to this point. It was correct all the way, I just didnt find the other positions nearly so interesting as to want to post them.

Imagine you are playing as white and blue here, make your cube decisions. No need to make comments regarding the ridiculous nature of the size of the cube, which if it hadnt been beavered would have been an 8 cube being sent over, not a 32 cube.

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