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GNU rollout and comments

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Sunday, 18 March 2007, at 4:04 p.m.

In Response To: GNU 4 ply eval..DB etc etc etc (neilkaz)

This appears to be the small pass I think it is. Snowie 4 is simply not very trustworthy for close race cube decisions and hopefully Snowie 5 will have improved logic as races shorten up (noting I told Egger how to do this for Snowie 1 at least a decade ago !!)

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, user 0

Move number 3: user on roll, cube decision?


 '2X3X2X2X4X ' '1X '1X '

2O3O2O1O2O3O ' '1O1O ' '

Pip counts: gnubg 75, user 65
Position ID: dtsjAQC7taMAAA Match ID: cAkAAAAAAAAA

• user doubles

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity +0.5721 
Cubeful equities:
1.Double, pass +1.0000 
2.Double, take +1.0145 +0.0145
3.No double +0.8521 -0.1479
Proper cube action:Double, pass
Rollout details
 WinW gW bg LoseL gL bgCubelessCubeful
Centered 1-cube0.78600.00000.0000-0.21400.00000.0000 +0.5721 +0.8521
Standard error0.00010.00000.0000-0.00010.00000.0000 0.0002 0.0027
Player gnubg owns 2-cube0.78530.00000.0000-0.21470.00000.0000 +1.1412 +1.0145
Standard error0.00010.00000.0000-0.00010.00000.0000 0.0006 0.0038
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
163 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1020726168 and quasi-random dice
Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

 

The problem is that Snowie thinks the below position is a clear take rather than a clear pass as no cube vig. It will make bad takes like this in the rollout and that may have skewed Stick's result.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, user 0

Move number 4: user on roll, cube decision?


3X2X ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '

2O1O2O ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '

Pip counts: gnubg 7, user 10
Position ID: NwAAwBoAAAAAAA Match ID: cAkAAAAAAAAA

• user doubles

Cube decision
2-ply cubeless equity +0.5428 
 0.7714 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2286 0.0000 0.0000
Cubeful equities:
1.Double, pass +1.0000 
2.Double, take +1.0856 +0.0856
3.No double +0.7508 -0.2492
Proper cube action:Double, pass

 

GNU properly passes things like this in the rollout and I strongly feel gets more accurate results in races.

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