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GNU rollout and comments
Posted By: neilkaz In Response To: GNU 4 ply eval..DB etc etc etc (neilkaz)
Date: Sunday, 18 March 2007, at 4:04 p.m.
This appears to be the small pass I think it is. Snowie 4 is simply not very trustworthy for close race cube decisions and hopefully Snowie 5 will have improved logic as races shorten up (noting I told Egger how to do this for Snowie 1 at least a decade ago !!)
The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, user 0
Move number 3: user on roll, cube decision?
Pip counts: gnubg 75, user 65
Position ID: dtsjAQC7taMAAA Match ID: cAkAAAAAAAAA
• user doubles
Cube decision Rollout cubeless equity +0.5721 Cubeful equities: 1. Double, pass +1.0000 2. Double, take +1.0145 +0.0145 3. No double +0.8521 -0.1479 Proper cube action: Double, pass Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.7860 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2140 0.0000 0.0000 +0.5721 +0.8521 Standard error 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0.0002 0.0027 Player gnubg owns 2-cube 0.7853 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2147 0.0000 0.0000 +1.1412 +1.0145 Standard error 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0.0006 0.0038 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 163 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1020726168 and quasi-random dice Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
The problem is that Snowie thinks the below position is a clear take rather than a clear pass as no cube vig. It will make bad takes like this in the rollout and that may have skewed Stick's result.
The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, user 0
Move number 4: user on roll, cube decision?
Pip counts: gnubg 7, user 10
Position ID: NwAAwBoAAAAAAA Match ID: cAkAAAAAAAAA
• user doubles
Cube decision 2-ply cubeless equity +0.5428 0.7714 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2286 0.0000 0.0000 Cubeful equities: 1. Double, pass +1.0000 2. Double, take +1.0856 +0.0856 3. No double +0.7508 -0.2492 Proper cube action: Double, pass
GNU properly passes things like this in the rollout and I strongly feel gets more accurate results in races.
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