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Cubeful rollout of out and hit/loose

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Wednesday, 24 December 2008, at 3:36 p.m.

In Response To: four vs one (Rich Munitz)

I think it would take a long time with GNU to gain more insight into what the best play is here.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, ntk 0 (match to 7 points)

Move number 6: gnubg on roll, cube decision?

gnubg	146
ntk	183
Position ID: 0DN4AjTgc8MDCA Match ID: MAHgAAAAAAAA

• gnubg doubles

Alert: wrong double ( -0.054)!

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.461	(Money: +0.446)
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	+0.635
2.	Double, pass	+1.000	+0.365
3.	Double, take	+0.581	-0.054
Proper cube action:		No double, take (12.9%)
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.617 0.262 0.028 - 0.383 0.072 0.006 +0.461 +0.635 Standard error 0.003 0.003 0.002 - 0.003 0.001 0.001 0.008 0.020 Player ntk owns 2-cube 0.614 0.270 0.028 - 0.386 0.074 0.009 +0.945 +0.581 Standard error 0.003 0.004 0.003 - 0.003 0.002 0.001 0.022 0.027
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Messages In This Thread

• four vs one
  aoleg1 -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 2:19 p.m.
  • four vs one
    John O'Hagan -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 3:29 p.m.
    • four vs one
      neilkaz -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 4:57 p.m.
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        aoleg1 -- Tuesday, 23 December 2008, at 8:28 a.m.
      • Cube rollout of double slot
        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 23 December 2008, at 3:28 p.m.
  • create diagram
    David Rockwell -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 4:12 p.m.
    • create diagram
      neilkaz -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 4:39 p.m.
    • create diagram
      Caryl Stephanson -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 5:40 p.m.
      • Stick - change link on forum?
        Gregg Cattanach -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 6:38 p.m.
        • Stick - change link on forum?
          Mike Main -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 7:58 p.m.
          • Stick - change link on forum?
            tem_sat -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 9:56 p.m.
            • Stick - change link on forum?
              Simon Woodhead -- Tuesday, 23 December 2008, at 1:26 a.m.
        • Stick - change link on forum?
          Stick -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 8:33 p.m.
          • Stick - change link on forum?
            Mike Main -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 11:38 p.m.
        • New Version -- Takes Snowie Files
          tem_sat -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 10:00 p.m.
          • Glitch FYI Tara
            Caryl Stephanson -- Tuesday, 23 December 2008, at 6:07 p.m.
            • Glitch FYI Tara
              tem_sat -- Tuesday, 23 December 2008, at 6:16 p.m.
            • This should help...
              tem_sat -- Tuesday, 23 December 2008, at 7:04 p.m.
              • my messup, yes, and this is now correct (I think!)..THANKS!
                Caryl Stephanson -- Wednesday, 24 December 2008, at 5:44 p.m.
                • ps thanks for emails *NM*
                  Caryl Stephanson -- Wednesday, 24 December 2008, at 5:44 p.m.
    • create diagram
      aoleg1 -- Tuesday, 23 December 2008, at 8:14 a.m.
  • four vs one
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 5:15 p.m.
    • four vs one
      neilkaz -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 5:39 p.m.
      • four vs one
        Marty Storer -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 7:00 p.m.
    • Cubeful rollout of out and hit/loose
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 24 December 2008, at 3:36 p.m.
      • Cubeful rollout of out and hit/loose
        Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 24 December 2008, at 5:57 p.m.
  • four vs one
    jdg -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 7:21 p.m.
  • four vs one
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 22 December 2008, at 8:01 p.m.