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Forfeiture / flag falling/chess

Posted By: Bob Koca
Date: Friday, 13 February 2009, at 11:11 p.m.

In Response To: Forfeiture / flag falling/chess (Matt Cohn-Geier)

"If you are very low on time but in a position where you cannot lose by reasonable play and virtually the only way to lose is on time, you may claim a draw by insufficient winning chances, provided you haven't flagged yet."

This is surprising to me. So you could claim the draw even if the opponent has enough material to mate? What does reasonable play mean? Also is two nights and a king vs. king considered mating material? The win cannot be forced but a mate is possible against poor play.

Messages In This Thread

• Time warning for digital clocks
  Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 10 February 2009, at 10:56 p.m.
  • Time warning for digital clocks
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 10 February 2009, at 11:00 p.m.
    • Time warning for digital clocks
      Stick -- Tuesday, 10 February 2009, at 11:08 p.m.
      • Time warning for digital clocks
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 10 February 2009, at 11:33 p.m.
        • 10 sec is not enuf warning time...lets make it 30 sec
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:36 a.m.
          • 10 sec is not enuf warning time...lets make it 30 sec
            David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 4:39 a.m.
    • Time warning for digital clocks
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 10 February 2009, at 11:52 p.m.
      • Time warning for digital clocks
        Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 12:12 a.m.
        • Time warning for digital clocks
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 12:17 a.m.
          • Time warning for digital clocks
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 12:27 a.m.
            • Time warning for digital clocks
              neilkaz -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:06 a.m.
              • Time warning for digital clocks
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 3:45 a.m.
                • Time warning for digital clocks
                  Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 4:30 a.m.
                  • Time warning for digital clocks
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 5:22 a.m.
                  • Even better?
                    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:36 p.m.
          • Time warning for digital clocks
            Stick -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 12:28 a.m.
            • Time warning for digital clocks
              Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 1:12 a.m.
              • Time warning for digital clocks
                Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 1:26 a.m.
                • Time warning for digital clocks
                  Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:30 a.m.
              • Time warning for digital clocks
                David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 4:36 a.m.
                • Time warning for digital clocks
                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 5:14 a.m.
        • Time warning for digital clocks
          Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 12:19 a.m.
          • Time warning for digital clocks
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 12:29 a.m.
  • Time warning for digital clocks
    Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 10 February 2009, at 11:25 p.m.
  • Time warning for digital clocks
    Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 5:42 a.m.
    • Time warning for digital clocks
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 5:47 a.m.
  • Time warning for digital clocks
    Stick -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 6:57 a.m.
    • Time warning for digital clocks
      Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:50 p.m.
      • Time warning for digital clocks
        Stick -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:53 p.m.
        • Time warning for digital clocks
          Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 8:47 p.m.
  • Patrick's E-Mail Response
    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:55 p.m.
  • Ruling questions
    mamabear -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:58 p.m.
    • Ruling questions
      Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 4:57 p.m.
    • Ruling questions
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 9:44 p.m.
      • Forfeiture / flag falling
        Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 10:13 p.m.
        • Forfeiture / flag falling
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 10:20 p.m.
          • Forfeiture / flag falling
            Neil Robins -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 10:31 p.m.
            • Forfeiture / flag falling
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 10:37 p.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                Jason Lee -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 2:58 a.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Bob Koca -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 3:30 a.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 7:46 p.m.
                    • Forfeiture / flag falling
                      Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 9:06 p.m.
                      • Forfeiture / flag falling
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 9:27 p.m.
                        • Forfeiture / flag falling
                          Bill Riles -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 9:50 p.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  mamabear -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 4:10 a.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling
                    Bob Koca -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 4:47 a.m.
                    • Forfeiture / flag falling
                      Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 4:49 a.m.
          • Forfeiture / flag falling
            Jason Lee -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 2:58 a.m.
          • Forfeiture / flag falling
            Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
            • Forfeiture / flag falling
              mamabear -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 4:27 a.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 6:47 a.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 2:07 a.m.
            • Forfeiture / flag falling
              Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 2:00 p.m.
            • Forfeiture / flag falling
              Bob Koca -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 7:39 p.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:08 a.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:11 a.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling
                    Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:48 a.m.
          • Forfeiture / flag falling
            MFIC -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:19 a.m.
            • Forfeiture / flag falling
              Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:32 a.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:36 a.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:52 a.m.
              • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                mamabear -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 1:06 p.m.
                • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                  Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 5:09 p.m.
                  • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                    Stick -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 5:12 p.m.
                  • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                    Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 5:17 p.m.
                    • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                      Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 5:20 p.m.
                      • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                        Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:47 p.m.
                      • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 8:19 p.m.
                        • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                          Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 9:10 p.m.
                          • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                            Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 9:57 p.m.
                  • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                    mamabear -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 5:36 p.m.
                    • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                      Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 5:53 p.m.
                      • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                        Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:33 p.m.
                        • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                          Bill Riles -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:45 p.m.
                          • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                            Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 9:55 p.m.
                            • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                              Jason Lee -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 11:16 p.m.
                      • Ridiculous cases make bad law
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                Chuck Bower -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 5:39 p.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 8:13 p.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling
                    Chuck Bower -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 10:22 p.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling/chess
                    Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 10:51 p.m.
                    • Forfeiture / flag falling/chess
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 11:00 p.m.
                      • Forfeiture / flag falling/chess
                        Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 11:11 p.m.
                        • Forfeiture / flag falling/chess
                          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 12:35 a.m.
                    • Forfeiture / flag falling/chess
                      garyo -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 6:27 a.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                MFIC -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 11:35 p.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Bob Koca -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 12:09 a.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling
                    MFIC -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 12:52 a.m.
                    • Forfeiture / flag falling
                      Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 2:41 a.m.
                      • Forfeiture / flag falling
                        Jason Lee -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 3:11 a.m.
                        • Forfeiture / flag falling
                          Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 4:41 a.m.
                      • Forfeiture / flag falling
                        Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 3:18 a.m.
                        • Forfeiture / flag falling
                          MFIC -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 8:45 p.m.
                          • Forfeiture / flag falling
                            Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 12:35 a.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling
                    Sam Pottle -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 2:22 a.m.
            • Forfeiture / flag falling
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 2:27 a.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                Sam Pottle -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 7:50 a.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 7:59 a.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling
                    Sam Pottle -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 8:23 a.m.
                    • Forfeiture / flag falling
                      Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 6:11 p.m.
                      • Forfeiture / flag falling
                        Bob Koca -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 8:11 p.m.
                        • Forfeiture / flag falling
                          MFIC -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 8:47 p.m.
                          • Forfeiture / flag falling
                            Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 12:39 a.m.
                            • Forfeiture / flag falling
                              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 4:36 a.m.
                              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                                Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 4:50 a.m.
                                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 4:52 a.m.
                      • Forfeiture / flag falling
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 4:44 a.m.
                        • Forfeiture / flag falling
                          Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 5:02 a.m.
                          • Forfeiture / flag falling
                            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 5:11 a.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                MFIC -- Saturday, 14 February 2009, at 7:56 p.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 4:34 a.m.
                  • Forfeiture / flag falling
                    MFIC -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 6:02 a.m.
                    • Forfeiture / flag falling
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 6:22 a.m.
                      • Forfeiture / flag falling
                        MFIC -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 5:17 a.m.
                        • Forfeiture / flag falling
                          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 10:29 a.m.
                          • Forfeiture / flag falling
                            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 1:56 p.m.
        • Forfeiture / flag falling
          David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 12:09 a.m.
          • Forfeiture / flag falling
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 12:24 a.m.
          • Forfeiture / flag falling
            Jason Lee -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 3:00 a.m.
            • Forfeiture / flag falling
              Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 4:47 a.m.
              • Forfeiture / flag falling
                David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 5:04 a.m.
                • Forfeiture / flag falling
                  Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:09 a.m.
            • Forfeiture / flag falling
              David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 5:01 a.m.
  • Time warning for digital clocks
    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 2:59 p.m.
  • The Chiva/European(?) Take on the Subject
    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 8:15 p.m.
  • Time warning for digital clocks
    MFIC -- Wednesday, 11 February 2009, at 8:54 p.m.
  • More rulings
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 February 2009, at 11:45 p.m.
    • More rulings
      Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:03 a.m.
      • More rulings
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:21 a.m.
        • More rulings
          Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:38 a.m.
          • More rulings
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:43 a.m.
            • More rulings
              Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:55 a.m.
    • More rulings
      Bob Koca -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:08 a.m.
      • More rulings
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:17 a.m.
      • More rulings
        Jason Lee -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:50 a.m.
    • More rulings
      Rich Munitz -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 3:15 a.m.
      • More rulings
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 13 February 2009, at 6:20 a.m.