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After 64 then dance

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 8:29 p.m.

In Response To: two (3-ply cube) RO results (Chuck Bower)

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, ntk 0

Move number 5: ntk on roll, cube decision?

gnubg	39
ntk	109
Position ID: PgEAQLa7AQIkAA Match ID: UQkAAAAAAAAA

• ntk doubles

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.6573
Cubeful equities:
1.	Double, pass	+1.0000
2.	Double, take	+1.2224	+0.2224
3.	No double	+0.9343	-0.0657
Proper cube action:		Redouble, pass
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player ntk owns 2-cube 0.8380 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.1620 0.0174 0.0013 +0.6573 +0.9343 Standard error 0.0006 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.0006 0.0002 0.0001 0.0012 0.0030 Player gnubg owns 4-cube 0.8389 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.1611 0.0162 0.0014 +1.3206 +1.2224 Standard error 0.0011 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.0011 0.0003 0.0001 0.0047 0.0059
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
1861 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 817434254 and quasi-random dice
Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]

Cube decision
3-ply cubeless equity		+0.6440
	0.8307 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.1693 0.0165 0.0010
Cubeful equities:
1.	Double, pass	+1.0000
2.	Double, take	+1.1725	+0.1725
3.	No double	+0.9256	-0.0744
Proper cube action:		Redouble, pass

Alert: wrong double ( -0.0607)!

Cube decision
2-ply cubeless equity		+0.4359
	0.7258 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2742 0.0149 0.0007
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	+0.7459
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+0.2541
3.	Double, take	+0.6852	-0.0607
Proper cube action:		No redouble, take (19.3%)

Messages In This Thread

• More lessons here than meet the eye
  Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 4:15 p.m.
  • More lessons here than meet the eye
    pontiac -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 5:06 p.m.
    • More lessons here than meet the eye
      neilkaz -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 5:06 p.m.
      • More lessons here than meet the eye
        pontiac -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 6:02 p.m.
    • More lessons here than meet the eye
      Dan Pelton -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 6:01 p.m.
  • More lessons here than meet the eye
    Martin -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 5:17 p.m.
  • More lessons here than meet the eye
    David Rockwell -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 6:05 p.m.
    • More lessons here than meet the eye
      neilkaz -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 6:29 p.m.
    • More lessons here than meet the eye
      DanielP -- Monday, 16 February 2009, at 11:32 a.m.
  • More lessons here than meet the eye
    Jason Lee -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 10:30 p.m.
  • More lessons here than meet the eye
    David Rockwell -- Sunday, 15 February 2009, at 11:04 p.m.
  • More lessons here than meet the eye
    garyo -- Monday, 16 February 2009, at 3:39 a.m.
  • More lessons here than meet the eye
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 16 February 2009, at 6:46 p.m.
  • More lessons here than meet the eye
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 16 February 2009, at 7:55 p.m.
    • History
      Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 5:07 p.m.
      • History
        Stick -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 5:16 p.m.
        • History
          neilkaz -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 5:38 p.m.
          • History
            Stick -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 6:07 p.m.
          • History
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 6:23 p.m.
            • History
              MFIC -- Thursday, 19 February 2009, at 1:51 a.m.
              • History
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 19 February 2009, at 2:42 a.m.
              • History
                Stick -- Thursday, 19 February 2009, at 4:38 a.m.
                • History
                  Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 19 February 2009, at 5:15 a.m.
            • History
              neilkaz -- Thursday, 19 February 2009, at 4:47 a.m.
              • History
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 19 February 2009, at 5:08 a.m.
        • History
          Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 5:44 p.m.
          • History
            Stick -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 6:06 p.m.
      • Hidden lesson
        Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 5:34 p.m.
        • two (3-ply cube) RO results
          Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 5:41 p.m.
          • After 64 then dance
            neilkaz -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 8:29 p.m.
        • Hidden lesson
          David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 17 February 2009, at 6:55 p.m.