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MET and G%

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:02 p.m.

In Response To: Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action (David Rockwell)

David, your rollouts like Ian Dunstin's were done with 2 ply GNU, while mine (5pt match table) were done with 0-ply play and Zorba's (g11) also were done with 0-ply play.

Not in a million billion zillion years could I believe that 2-ply wins so many more G's(or perhaps more games due to GG checker play) than 0-ply to make such a difference at GG (-1-2C) not in googleplex(big number ain't it?) of years ....

... when this was shown to me...being untrusting I did my own rollouts and yeah..this is true.

Anyhow..I don't think anyone can move the checkers as well as GNU 2-ply at GG and almost everyone would be happy to be as good as 0-ply...so I just basically average the two tables for short matches (which is where it may make some slightly meaningful difference) and use 32% for GG. I base my calculations Crawford scores on 36% singles wins 13.5% G wins and 0.5% BG wins and I think this is good enough and results in an average between the 0-ply and 2-ply results.

Messages In This Thread

• Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 9:39 a.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    Neil Robins -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 10:30 a.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    Ade -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 11:41 a.m.
    • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
      neilkaz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 12:48 p.m.
      • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
        Ade -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 1:13 p.m.
        • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
          neilkaz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 3:54 p.m.
        • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
          David Rockwell -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 4:07 p.m.
          • MET and G%
            neilkaz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:02 p.m.
            • MET and G%
              David Rockwell -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:14 p.m.
              • MET and G%
                Sam Pottle -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:23 p.m.
                • MET and G%
                  David Rockwell -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:28 p.m.
                  • MET and G%
                    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:08 p.m.
                    • MET and G%
                      Bob Koca -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:45 p.m.
                  • MET and G%
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
                    • A few more
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 8:34 p.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    John O'Hagan -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 11:50 a.m.
    • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
      John O'Hagan -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 11:53 a.m.
      • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 5:47 p.m.
        • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:20 p.m.
        • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
          John O'Hagan -- Tuesday, 3 March 2009, at 3:33 a.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 5:41 p.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:19 p.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action Rollout
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 4 March 2009, at 3:38 a.m.