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Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action Rollout

Posted By: Matt Cohn-Geier
Date: Wednesday, 4 March 2009, at 3:38 a.m.

In Response To: Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action (Matt Cohn-Geier)

Stick & I doubled this...although we are well into the doubling window and nearing our cash point cubing is still a fairly large error because we kill our gammons.

Petko almost forgot to recube on his next roll but did recube and threw 66, and so would have missed a chance to recube us out. But I threw 66, 66, and 22 and we won the race.

The score (after 4 games) is: Petko/Michael Edge 2, Matt Cohn-Geier/Stick 5 (match to 7 points)

Move number 25: Matt Cohn-Geier/Stick on roll, cube decision?

Petko/Michael Edge	75
Matt Cohn-Geier/Stick	93
Position ID: 7+4AAAzm7gwMAA Match ID: cAngACAAKAAA

• Matt Cohn-Geier/Stick doubles

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.6350	(Money: +0.6007)
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	+0.8525
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+0.1475
3.	Double, take	+0.7543	-0.0981
Proper cube action:		No double, take (39.9%)
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.7409 0.1255 0.0065 - 0.2591 0.0130 0.0002 +0.6350 +0.8525 Standard error 0.0019 0.0063 0.0021 - 0.0019 0.0010 0.0001 0.0070 0.0101 Player Petko/Michael Edge owns 2-cube 0.7452 0.1381 0.0040 - 0.2548 0.0096 0.0002 +1.5986 +0.7543 Standard error 0.0018 0.0123 0.0014 - 0.0018 0.0011 0.0001 0.0085 0.0143
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
325 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 813700778 and quasi-random dice
Stop when best play is enough JSDs ahead: limit 3.24 (min. 1296 games)
Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.2
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 9:39 a.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    Neil Robins -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 10:30 a.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    Ade -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 11:41 a.m.
    • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
      neilkaz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 12:48 p.m.
      • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
        Ade -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 1:13 p.m.
        • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
          neilkaz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 3:54 p.m.
        • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
          David Rockwell -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 4:07 p.m.
          • MET and G%
            neilkaz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:02 p.m.
            • MET and G%
              David Rockwell -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:14 p.m.
              • MET and G%
                Sam Pottle -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:23 p.m.
                • MET and G%
                  David Rockwell -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 6:28 p.m.
                  • MET and G%
                    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:08 p.m.
                    • MET and G%
                      Bob Koca -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:45 p.m.
                  • MET and G%
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
                    • A few more
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 8:34 p.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    John O'Hagan -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 11:50 a.m.
    • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
      John O'Hagan -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 11:53 a.m.
      • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 5:47 p.m.
        • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:20 p.m.
        • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
          John O'Hagan -- Tuesday, 3 March 2009, at 3:33 a.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 5:41 p.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 2 March 2009, at 7:19 p.m.
  • Doubles 2-away 5-away cube action Rollout
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 4 March 2009, at 3:38 a.m.