BGonline.org Forums

Longer GNU 2 ply rollout

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Tuesday, 7 April 2009, at 2:34 p.m.

In Response To: Fight the back game (Jason Lee)

I'm not completely convinced here and would have to look at some variations after each play to see if GNU is playing OK.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, ntk 2 (match to 7 points)

Move number 4: ntk to play 26

gnubg	209
ntk	140
Position ID: Qi48gDbYrokBQQ Match ID: cAn5AAAAEAAA

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	bar/19* 5/3*	+0.9689
			0.6535 0.4926 0.1980 - 0.3465 0.0382 0.0006 +0.9689 0.0079 0.0086 0.0093 - 0.0079 0.0021 0.0013 0.0310
			Full cubeless rollout (trunc. at one-sided bearoff) with var.redn.
			2614 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 88737747 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeless prune
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune
	2	R	bar/19* 13/11	+0.8934 ( -0.0754)
			0.6195 0.4740 0.1946 - 0.3805 0.0240 0.0008 +0.8934 0.0075 0.0085 0.0090 - 0.0075 0.0016 0.0030 0.0299
			Full cubeless rollout (trunc. at one-sided bearoff) with var.redn.
			2614 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 88737747 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeless prune
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune
	3	R	bar/23* 13/7	+0.8916 ( -0.0773)
			0.6224 0.4656 0.1947 - 0.3776 0.0234 0.0010 +0.8916 0.0074 0.0080 0.0083 - 0.0074 0.0014 0.0005 0.0279
			Full cubeless rollout (trunc. at one-sided bearoff) with var.redn.
			2611 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 88737747 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeless prune
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune

Messages In This Thread

• Fight the back game
  Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 4:42 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    Stick -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 4:49 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    Petter Bengtsson -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 4:57 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    Coolrey -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    David -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 8:09 p.m.
    • Fight the back game
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 8:11 p.m.
      • Fight the back game
        David -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 8:30 p.m.
        • Fight the back game
          neilkaz -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
          • Fight the back game
            Coolrey -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 10:58 p.m.
          • Fight the back game
            Stick -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 6:33 a.m.
            • Fight the back game
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 9:47 a.m.
            • Fight the back game
              Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 3:36 p.m.
              • Fight the back game
                Stick -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 3:47 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    trichard -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 8:32 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 31 March 2009, at 9:03 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    misja -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 8:02 a.m.
  • Are we back to 1970's analysis?
    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 12:55 p.m.
    • Are we back to 1970's analysis?
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 1:19 p.m.
  • Is anyone doing a rollout here ?
    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:22 p.m.
    • Is anyone doing a rollout here ?
      Stick -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:30 p.m.
      • Is anyone doing a rollout here ?
        Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:35 p.m.
        • Add another > sign
          Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 5:14 p.m.
          • Add another > sign
            Stick -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 5:18 p.m.
            • Add another > sign
              neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 5:29 p.m.
              • Add another > sign
                Stick -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 5:47 p.m.
                • Add another > sign
                  Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 5:50 p.m.
      • Is anyone doing a rollout here ?
        Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:46 p.m.
        • Is anyone doing a rollout here ?
          Stick -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:52 p.m.
    • Settings?
      Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:32 p.m.
      • Rollout started
        neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 5:01 p.m.
        • mine, too
          Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 5:12 p.m.
        • Rollout started..GNU stalled out after 29 games
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 7:26 p.m.
          • Rollout started..GNU stalled out after 29 games
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 7:35 p.m.
            • There is new version available
              Mislav Radica -- Saturday, 4 April 2009, at 12:21 a.m.
      • Settings?
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 6:56 p.m.
        • Settings?
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 7:05 p.m.
          • Settings?
            Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:31 p.m.
  • Fight the back game
    allwind -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:31 p.m.
    • Fight the back game
      Stick -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 4:44 p.m.
    • The last time ....
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 5:07 p.m.
      • The last time ....
        Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 6:09 p.m.
        • The last time ....
          Stick -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 6:22 p.m.
          • very preliminary report of RO
            Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 2 April 2009, at 9:22 p.m.
            • very preliminary report of RO
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 2 April 2009, at 9:37 p.m.
            • update report of RO
              Chuck Bower -- Friday, 3 April 2009, at 5:33 p.m.
        • 3-ply cubeless-$ RO started
          Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 7:09 p.m.
          • ?????????
            neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 7:21 p.m.
            • different problem
              Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 9:29 p.m.
              • different problem..oh..
                neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 April 2009, at 9:59 p.m.
  • Roll Out Results
    allwind -- Thursday, 2 April 2009, at 1:54 a.m.
    • Roll Out Results
      Stick -- Thursday, 2 April 2009, at 6:13 a.m.
  • GNU 2-ply RO
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 2 April 2009, at 2:50 a.m.
    • GNU 3-ply RO report (preliminary and brief)
      Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 2 April 2009, at 1:22 p.m.
      • GNU 3-ply RO update
        Chuck Bower -- Friday, 3 April 2009, at 5:29 p.m.
        • GNU 3-ply RO update after 988 trials
          Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 5 April 2009, at 4:22 p.m.
    • Mine continues...
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 2 April 2009, at 2:55 p.m.
    • GNU 2-ply RO
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 3 April 2009, at 6:11 p.m.
      • 2-ply and 3-ply playing very differently
        Chuck Bower -- Friday, 3 April 2009, at 9:23 p.m.
  • GNU 3-ply RO
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 3 April 2009, at 6:17 p.m.
    • mine still different
      Chuck Bower -- Friday, 3 April 2009, at 9:29 p.m.
      • mine still different
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 3 April 2009, at 9:50 p.m.
  • Manual roll out
    allwind -- Saturday, 4 April 2009, at 3:03 p.m.
  • Longer GNU 2 ply rollout
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 April 2009, at 2:34 p.m.