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More cube action after taking my earlier post

Posted By: Stick
Date: Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 8:02 p.m.

In Response To: More cube action after taking my earlier post (Bill Riles)

Rolled out w/the MET being 100 ELO difference. The difference between Rory and Neil is probably twice that so it's a clear cube depending on who he is playing. The T/P decision would be more interesting in this scenario imo.

The score (after 0 games) is: Player 0 3, Player 1 6 (match to 9 points)

Move number 5: Player 1 on roll, cube decision?

Player 0	106
Player 1	59
Position ID: ztuBgEDu7xACAA Match ID: UQkgATAAMAAA

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.7885	(Money: +0.8680)
Cubeful equities:
1.	Double, take	+0.8700
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+0.1300
3.	No double	+0.8465	-0.0235
Proper cube action:		Redouble, take
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player Player 1 owns 2-cube 0.8507 0.1595 0.0143 - 0.1493 0.0071 0.0002 +0.7885 +0.8465 Standard error 0.0012 0.0051 0.0028 - 0.0012 0.0006 0.0001 0.0032 0.0045 Player Player 0 owns 4-cube 0.8542 0.3070 0.0229 - 0.1458 0.0109 0.0001 +1.1664 +0.8700 Standard error 0.0012 0.0124 0.0037 - 0.0012 0.0023 0.0001 0.0045 0.0072
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
648 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 819142964 and quasi-random dice
Player 0:
Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
Player 1:
Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
Cube: 0-ply cubeful [expert]

Messages In This Thread

• More cube action after taking my earlier post
  Rory -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 4:14 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    mikeg -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 4:19 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:01 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    Bill Finneran -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:03 p.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:06 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:12 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    Keene -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:24 p.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      Rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 3:04 a.m.
      • More cube action after taking my earlier post
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 3:13 a.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 1:18 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Stick -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 6:40 p.m.
            • More cube action after taking my earlier post
              Bill Riles -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:08 p.m.
              • More cube action after taking my earlier post
                Stick -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 8:02 p.m.
            • More cube action after taking my earlier post
              Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 11:08 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 6:54 p.m.
      • More cube action after taking my earlier post
        Keene -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:38 a.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          Stick -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:51 a.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 6:29 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 6:36 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    Coolrey -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 11:02 p.m.
  • Rollout Results
    Rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 2:56 a.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    David Rockwell -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:08 a.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      Rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 5:15 a.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 1:09 p.m.
      • More cube action after taking my earlier post
        mikeg -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 1:24 p.m.
      • More cube action after taking my earlier post
        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 3:32 p.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          Keene -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:05 p.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:10 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:25 p.m.
            • More cube action after taking my earlier post
              Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 5:37 p.m.
              • More cube action after taking my earlier post
                Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:27 p.m.
                • More cube action after taking my earlier post
                  Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 10:11 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    David Rockwell -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 6:50 p.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:27 p.m.
      • More cube action after taking my earlier post
        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:31 p.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:35 p.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          David Rockwell -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 8:28 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 8:52 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Gregg Cattanach -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 12:31 p.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 10:31 p.m.
    • RO Variant #1
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 1:28 a.m.
    • Rollout Variant #2 - not interesting
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 1:59 a.m.
    • RO Variant #3
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 2:12 a.m.
    • RO Variant #4 - totally uninteresting
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 3:34 a.m.