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RO Variant #1

Posted By: David Rockwell
Date: Friday, 1 May 2009, at 1:28 a.m.

In Response To: More cube action after taking my earlier post (David Rockwell)

This position is too good by a small amount. The sentiment about the original position is that it was an obvious take / redouble for the match. How often will this position be judged an obvious take garnishing the .26 blunder? This may be a good practical double.

The score (after 0 games) is: Ginat 3, Pascar 6 (match to 9 points)

Move number 10: Pascar on roll, cube decision?

Ginat	106
Pascar	55
Position ID: ztuBgEC77xACAA Match ID: UQkgATAAMAAA

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+1.0309	(Money: +1.1121)
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	+1.0309
2.	Double, take	+1.2632	+0.2323
3.	Double, pass	+1.0000	-0.0309
Proper cube action:		Too good to redouble, pass (11.7%)
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player Pascar owns 2-cube 0.9261 0.2582 0.0060 - 0.0739 0.0044 0.0001 +1.0309 +1.0309 Standard error 0.0007 0.0021 0.0012 - 0.0007 0.0005 0.0000 0.0017 0.0022 Player Ginat owns 4-cube 0.9319 0.4731 0.0044 - 0.0681 0.0031 0.0000 +1.4354 +1.2632 Standard error 0.0008 0.0112 0.0012 - 0.0008 0.0013 0.0000 0.0029 0.0048
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Messages In This Thread

• More cube action after taking my earlier post
  Rory -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 4:14 p.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    mikeg -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 4:19 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:01 p.m.
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    Bill Finneran -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:03 p.m.
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      Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:06 p.m.
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    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:12 p.m.
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    Keene -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 5:24 p.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      Rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 3:04 a.m.
      • More cube action after taking my earlier post
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 3:13 a.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 1:18 p.m.
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            Stick -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 6:40 p.m.
            • More cube action after taking my earlier post
              Bill Riles -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:08 p.m.
              • More cube action after taking my earlier post
                Stick -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 8:02 p.m.
            • More cube action after taking my earlier post
              Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 11:08 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 6:54 p.m.
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        Keene -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:38 a.m.
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          Stick -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:51 a.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 6:29 p.m.
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    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 6:36 p.m.
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    Coolrey -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 11:02 p.m.
  • Rollout Results
    Rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 2:56 a.m.
  • More cube action after taking my earlier post
    David Rockwell -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:08 a.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      Rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 5:15 a.m.
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      Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 1:09 p.m.
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        mikeg -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 1:24 p.m.
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        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 3:32 p.m.
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          Keene -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:05 p.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:10 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:25 p.m.
            • More cube action after taking my earlier post
              Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 5:37 p.m.
              • More cube action after taking my earlier post
                Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:27 p.m.
                • More cube action after taking my earlier post
                  Coolrey -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
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            rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 10:11 p.m.
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    David Rockwell -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 6:50 p.m.
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      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:27 p.m.
      • More cube action after taking my earlier post
        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:31 p.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 7:35 p.m.
        • More cube action after taking my earlier post
          David Rockwell -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 8:28 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 8:52 p.m.
          • More cube action after taking my earlier post
            Gregg Cattanach -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 12:31 p.m.
    • More cube action after taking my earlier post
      rory -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 10:31 p.m.
    • RO Variant #1
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 1:28 a.m.
    • Rollout Variant #2 - not interesting
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 1:59 a.m.
    • RO Variant #3
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 2:12 a.m.
    • RO Variant #4 - totally uninteresting
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 3:34 a.m.