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Rollout Variant #2 - not interesting

Posted By: David Rockwell
Date: Friday, 1 May 2009, at 1:59 a.m.

In Response To: More cube action after taking my earlier post (David Rockwell)

ND / T

I thought that closing the ace point might make this just strong enough to double. It doesn't. I am guessing that having an extra pip to travel to get to safety offsets the ace point being made.

The score (after 0 games) is: Ginat 3, Pascar 6 (match to 9 points)

Move number 11: Pascar on roll, cube decision?

Ginat	106
Pascar	49
Position ID: ztuBgED7fRACAA Match ID: UQkgATAAMAAA

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.8455	(Money: +0.9368)
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	+0.8690
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+0.1310
3.	Double, take	+0.8326	-0.0364
Proper cube action:		No redouble, take (21.7%)
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player Pascar owns 2-cube 0.8627 0.2180 0.0016 - 0.1373 0.0081 0.0002 +0.8455 +0.8690 Standard error 0.0007 0.0045 0.0010 - 0.0007 0.0014 0.0001 0.0019 0.0025 Player Ginat owns 4-cube 0.8638 0.4185 0.0010 - 0.1362 0.0089 0.0000 +1.1773 +0.8326 Standard error 0.0008 0.0111 0.0003 - 0.0008 0.0021 0.0003 0.0030 0.0048
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• More cube action after taking my earlier post
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    • RO Variant #1
      David Rockwell -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 1:28 a.m.
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