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Two things that need to be done with XBG

Posted By: phil Simborg
Date: Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:25 p.m.

In Response To: Two things that need to be done with XBG (Rich Munitz)

Let's keep a little perspective about the bots. If two plays turn out to be within .020 of each other, I believe you can roll it out for the rest of your life and still never be quite sure which play is best, but I also believe that it's a waste of time, after a certain point, trying to find out. No matter how good you are, you have bigger fish (errors) to fry to sharpen your skills.

For 99 percent of us, being able to use a bot quickly and easily to find major errors, or to find out which play or two are close and at the top, is a WONDERFUL thing and services our needs well.

I do not want to know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, I want to know where the pin is.

So while you run all kinds of tests and studies to see which bot can count the angels, in the meantime, save yourself a few hours of rollouts and be assured you are getting very good information most of the time and very quickly with extremegammon. And be assured that you have a reasonable tool to settle some arguments and bets with a reasonable degree of accuracy in a relatively fast amount of time. Maybe in a year or two you will throw it away when something better comes along or GNU is improved to speed up, and by then you've more than gotten your $50 worth out of the investment.

Messages In This Thread

• Two things that need to be done with XBG
  neilkaz -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 6:24 p.m.
  • Two things that need to be done with XBG
    Mislav Radica -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 6:45 p.m.
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      Stick -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 7:24 p.m.
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        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:17 p.m.
        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
          Frank Berger -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:36 p.m.
          • Two things that need to be done with XBG
            Ian Shaw -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:30 a.m.
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          Bob Koca -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 11:14 p.m.
          • Two things that need to be done with XBG
            Mislav Radica -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:06 a.m.
          • Two things that need to be done with XBG
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 4:26 a.m.
            • Two things that need to be done with XBG
              Stick -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 5:11 a.m.
              • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                Ian Dunstan -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 6:17 a.m.
                • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                  Mislav Radica -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:19 a.m.
                • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                  phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:52 p.m.
                  • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                    aoleg1 -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 1:41 p.m.
                    • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 5:04 p.m.
                      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                        Ian Dunstan -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:24 p.m.
                        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:34 p.m.
                          • Backgames
                            Ian Dunstan -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 1:37 a.m.
                        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                          Frank Berger -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:38 p.m.
            • Two things that need to be done with XBG
              phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:25 p.m.
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                Marty Storer -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 2:23 p.m.
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                Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 3:47 p.m.
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          MaX -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 8:25 a.m.
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            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:41 a.m.
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            playBunny -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 5:08 p.m.
      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
        Frank Berger -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:47 p.m.
      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
        Mislav Radica -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 10:14 p.m.
  • Two things that need to be done with XBG
    aoleg1 -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:59 p.m.
    • Two things that need to be done with XBG
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 5:58 p.m.
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      Stick -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 7:57 p.m.
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    pontiac -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:04 p.m.
    • Two things that need to be done with XBG
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:28 p.m.
      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
        Mislav Radica -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 11:11 p.m.