BGonline.org Forums

Two things that need to be done with XBG

Posted By: Rich Munitz
Date: Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 3:47 p.m.

In Response To: Two things that need to be done with XBG (phil Simborg)

It all depends upon what you are trying to do as to whether a 0.02 error is meaningless or huge.

If you are rolling out benchmark positions and need to know exact answers and want to achieve some fundemental understanding of a position type, then 0.02 is huge.

If you want to simply improve your game by having your blunders pointed out so that you can try to understand where the heck you went so wrong, then 0.02 is largely irrelevant.

I tend to be of the latter camp. I let matches of interest roll out over night on Snowie (so speed has not been a huge concern), and I review the results "whenever". Instant feedback can be a distraction if I play the bot. I used to get that from Jellyfish because there was no other choice and when Snowie came along and allowed you to just play and analyze later, I found that to be an advantage.

Speed is of huge value for people in the former camp (and I am sometimes in there). In that case, you do want to have substantial trust in the results. I am all for a new bot on the block that is 5 times as fast, but lets verify that its results are trustworthy. In my opinion, there is little value to getting wrong answers in 20% of the time. I certainly hope that is not the case because if XBG passes the test, it would mean a tremendous tool at our disposal and I would be right in line to fork over $50.

Messages In This Thread

• Two things that need to be done with XBG
  neilkaz -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 6:24 p.m.
  • Two things that need to be done with XBG
    Mislav Radica -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 6:45 p.m.
    • Two things that need to be done with XBG
      Stick -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 7:24 p.m.
      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:17 p.m.
        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
          Frank Berger -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:36 p.m.
          • Two things that need to be done with XBG
            Ian Shaw -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:30 a.m.
        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
          Bob Koca -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 11:14 p.m.
          • Two things that need to be done with XBG
            Mislav Radica -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:06 a.m.
          • Two things that need to be done with XBG
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 4:26 a.m.
            • Two things that need to be done with XBG
              Stick -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 5:11 a.m.
              • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                Ian Dunstan -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 6:17 a.m.
                • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                  Mislav Radica -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:19 a.m.
                • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                  phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:52 p.m.
                  • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                    aoleg1 -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 1:41 p.m.
                    • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 5:04 p.m.
                      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                        Ian Dunstan -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:24 p.m.
                        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:34 p.m.
                          • Backgames
                            Ian Dunstan -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 1:37 a.m.
                        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                          Frank Berger -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:38 p.m.
            • Two things that need to be done with XBG
              phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:25 p.m.
              • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                Marty Storer -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 2:23 p.m.
              • Two things that need to be done with XBG
                Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 3:47 p.m.
        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
          MaX -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 8:25 a.m.
          • Two things that need to be done with XBG
            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:41 a.m.
          • Two things that need to be done with XBG
            playBunny -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 5:08 p.m.
      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
        Frank Berger -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:47 p.m.
      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
        Mislav Radica -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 10:14 p.m.
  • Two things that need to be done with XBG
    aoleg1 -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 12:59 p.m.
    • Two things that need to be done with XBG
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 5:58 p.m.
    • Two things that need to be done with XBG
      Stick -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 7:57 p.m.
  • Two things that need to be done with XBG
    pontiac -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:04 p.m.
    • Two things that need to be done with XBG
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:28 p.m.
      • Two things that need to be done with XBG
        Mislav Radica -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
        • Two things that need to be done with XBG
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 11:11 p.m.