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Awkward Clock Situation

Posted By: Gregg Cattanach
Date: Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:15 p.m.

In Response To: Awkward Clock Situation (Petter Bengtsson)

Jason is correct; there was no need to 'notify' the directors that they set the clock correctly. AFAIK, the tournament merely loaned out many of the clocks used. Obviously, they were set to 22 minutes for all the 11-point matches being set, Bill fixed it; no issue.

I don't think Brent got any undue 'advantage' by the stop in play to discuss the time control. Personally, I will tell my opponent that he has 1 minute left when he does, especially if I believe he was playing unaware of his time.

This story is a good example why extending the time controls any more would be a bad idea. It took 3.5 hours for a 13-point clocked match? That would create a delay in any tournament if it was mid-event.

Every time we hear ONE story from a tournament about someone in time-trouble, Richard tells us the time controls are too short. I am of the opinion that the measure of an appropriate time control is when a small percentage of players DO get in time trouble. In Brent's case, his need to shake up and down 23 times (I counted a few of them during his doubles match) is the kind of pointless delay that properly is removed by clock use. Three is plenty to 'thoroughly' shake dice. If he'd just shake and play, he probably wouldn't have had any trouble.

Now if we can just get all the TDs to institute clock preference, we'll be there.

Messages In This Thread

• Awkward Clock Situation
  Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    David Rockwell -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:10 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:30 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:40 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:18 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:19 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:44 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:49 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:57 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:10 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 10:12 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Petter Bengtsson -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:52 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:55 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Petter Bengtsson -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:01 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Gregg Cattanach -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:15 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:27 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:07 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:15 p.m.
            • Awkward Clock Situation
              Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:58 p.m.
            • Awkward Clock Situation
              Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:59 p.m.
  • Beating the dead horse
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:09 p.m.
    • Beating the dead horse
      Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:16 p.m.
      • Beating the dead horse
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:01 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
          • Beating the dead horse
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:22 p.m.
            • Beating the dead horse
              Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:54 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:23 p.m.
          • Beating the dead horse
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:39 p.m.
            • Beating the dead horse
              Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
              • Beating the dead horse
                Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:13 p.m.
              • Beating the dead horse
                neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:21 p.m.
                • Beating the dead horse
                  Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:03 p.m.
    • Beating the dead horse
      joe freedman -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:45 p.m.
      • Beating the dead horse
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:10 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          playBunny -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:35 a.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    David -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:27 p.m.
  • Another Absurd Failure
    lenny -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:03 p.m.
    • Pardon me, but I must ask whether you've actually played BG using a Bronstein clock? *NM*
      neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:23 p.m.
      • You're Excused; And No
        lenny -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 3:13 a.m.
        • You're Excused; And No
          dc-ohio -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:55 a.m.
          • Find The Right Comparison
            lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:13 a.m.
            • You Find The Right Comparison...
              dc-ohio -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 4:20 a.m.
              • You Find The Right Comparison...
                jdg -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:01 p.m.
                • You Find The Right Comparison...
                  Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:34 p.m.
              • No; Poker Not A TV Phenomenon
                lenny -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 6:42 a.m.
                • No; Poker Not A TV Phenomenon
                  Gregg Cattanach -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 7:29 p.m.
        • Angle shooting and Bronstein clocks
          neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 2:35 p.m.
          • Angle shooting and Bronstein clocks
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 4:16 p.m.
            • Good post, Rich
              Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 5:04 p.m.
            • Directors Proceeding With Discretion . . .
              lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:04 a.m.
              • Directors Proceeding With Discretion . . .
                Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:24 a.m.
                • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                  lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 8:57 a.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    Tom Keith -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 2:00 p.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:06 p.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 4:14 p.m.
                    • You're Not Growing
                      lenny -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 6:32 a.m.
    • Another Absurd Failure
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:34 p.m.
    • Another Absurd Failure
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 12:37 a.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 4:40 a.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 2:11 p.m.
  • Perhaps, since this was the FINAL
    garyo -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:46 p.m.