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Directors Proceeding With Discretion . . .

Posted By: Rich Munitz
Date: Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:24 a.m.

In Response To: Directors Proceeding With Discretion . . . (lenny)

I said that clocks "eliminate sources of conflict" and create no source of additional conflict if they are not used to impose time controls, but because of the mechanical improvements in play that they offer.

I agree. Use of clocks for time control DO create conflict. However that potential conflict must be balanced against the conflict created by slow play and tournament delays. Without the proactive use of clocks, directors can only react to delays that already exist, not prevent the delays in the first place. Furthermore, a players right to play as slow as they wish must be balanced with the other player's right and that of the spectators to not be tortured by that slow play just because the tournament is not yet unacceptably behind. I am absolutely not an advocate of speed backgammon in main events and I have argued on this forum for increasing the time allotted specifically to try to avoid issues where normal players playing at a reasonable pace have to worry about timing out. But just as we require that safe drivers wear seatbelts, time controls of some reasonable amount less than "forever" should be universal. Then, nobody is being singled out, and problems are prevented rather than reacted to after the fact.

Messages In This Thread

• Awkward Clock Situation
  Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    David Rockwell -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:10 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:30 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:40 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:18 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:19 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:44 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:49 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:57 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:10 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 10:12 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Petter Bengtsson -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:52 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:55 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Petter Bengtsson -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:01 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Gregg Cattanach -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:15 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:27 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:07 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:15 p.m.
            • Awkward Clock Situation
              Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:58 p.m.
            • Awkward Clock Situation
              Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:59 p.m.
  • Beating the dead horse
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:09 p.m.
    • Beating the dead horse
      Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:16 p.m.
      • Beating the dead horse
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:01 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
          • Beating the dead horse
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:22 p.m.
            • Beating the dead horse
              Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:54 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:23 p.m.
          • Beating the dead horse
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:39 p.m.
            • Beating the dead horse
              Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
              • Beating the dead horse
                Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:13 p.m.
              • Beating the dead horse
                neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:21 p.m.
                • Beating the dead horse
                  Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:03 p.m.
    • Beating the dead horse
      joe freedman -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:45 p.m.
      • Beating the dead horse
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:10 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          playBunny -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:35 a.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    David -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:27 p.m.
  • Another Absurd Failure
    lenny -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:03 p.m.
    • Pardon me, but I must ask whether you've actually played BG using a Bronstein clock? *NM*
      neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:23 p.m.
      • You're Excused; And No
        lenny -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 3:13 a.m.
        • You're Excused; And No
          dc-ohio -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:55 a.m.
          • Find The Right Comparison
            lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:13 a.m.
            • You Find The Right Comparison...
              dc-ohio -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 4:20 a.m.
              • You Find The Right Comparison...
                jdg -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:01 p.m.
                • You Find The Right Comparison...
                  Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:34 p.m.
              • No; Poker Not A TV Phenomenon
                lenny -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 6:42 a.m.
                • No; Poker Not A TV Phenomenon
                  Gregg Cattanach -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 7:29 p.m.
        • Angle shooting and Bronstein clocks
          neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 2:35 p.m.
          • Angle shooting and Bronstein clocks
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 4:16 p.m.
            • Good post, Rich
              Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 5:04 p.m.
            • Directors Proceeding With Discretion . . .
              lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:04 a.m.
              • Directors Proceeding With Discretion . . .
                Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:24 a.m.
                • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                  lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 8:57 a.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    Tom Keith -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 2:00 p.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:06 p.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 4:14 p.m.
                    • You're Not Growing
                      lenny -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 6:32 a.m.
    • Another Absurd Failure
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:34 p.m.
    • Another Absurd Failure
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 12:37 a.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 4:40 a.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 2:11 p.m.
  • Perhaps, since this was the FINAL
    garyo -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:46 p.m.