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Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .

Posted By: Tom Keith
Date: Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 2:00 p.m.

In Response To: Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . . (lenny)

There has always been conflict.

In the old days (before clocks), the conflict came on a match-by-match basis when any of the following occurred:

(1) One player played faster than the other and the faster player felt the slow player was taking undue advantage. (The players simply had a different perception of what the "expected" speed of play was.)

(2) Both players were playing the same speed but each felt the other was taking longer. (Time always goes slower when it's not your turn.)

(3) Both players were slow and their game was holding up the tournament. (Conflict with Director and others waiting to play.)

Clocks will eliminate much of this match-time conflict by giving players a standard to play to. The conflict you are seeing now is lobbying by various parties on the question of "how fast players are expected to play." This is not at new question, but the discussion is sharper (because we now have a way to enforce a standard), and it's more public.

Messages In This Thread

• Awkward Clock Situation
  Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    David Rockwell -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:10 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:30 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:40 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:18 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:19 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:44 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:49 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:57 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:10 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 10:12 p.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Petter Bengtsson -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:52 p.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 5:55 p.m.
      • Awkward Clock Situation
        Petter Bengtsson -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:01 p.m.
        • Awkward Clock Situation
          Gregg Cattanach -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:15 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:27 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:07 p.m.
          • Awkward Clock Situation
            Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:15 p.m.
            • Awkward Clock Situation
              Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:58 p.m.
            • Awkward Clock Situation
              Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:59 p.m.
  • Beating the dead horse
    Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:09 p.m.
    • Beating the dead horse
      Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:16 p.m.
      • Beating the dead horse
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:01 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:17 p.m.
          • Beating the dead horse
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:22 p.m.
            • Beating the dead horse
              Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:54 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:23 p.m.
          • Beating the dead horse
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 7:39 p.m.
            • Beating the dead horse
              Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
              • Beating the dead horse
                Bob Koca -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:13 p.m.
              • Beating the dead horse
                neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:21 p.m.
                • Beating the dead horse
                  Chuck Bower -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:03 p.m.
    • Beating the dead horse
      joe freedman -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 6:45 p.m.
      • Beating the dead horse
        Rich Munitz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:10 p.m.
        • Beating the dead horse
          playBunny -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:35 a.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    David -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:27 p.m.
  • Another Absurd Failure
    lenny -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:03 p.m.
    • Pardon me, but I must ask whether you've actually played BG using a Bronstein clock? *NM*
      neilkaz -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:23 p.m.
      • You're Excused; And No
        lenny -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 3:13 a.m.
        • You're Excused; And No
          dc-ohio -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:55 a.m.
          • Find The Right Comparison
            lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:13 a.m.
            • You Find The Right Comparison...
              dc-ohio -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 4:20 a.m.
              • You Find The Right Comparison...
                jdg -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:01 p.m.
                • You Find The Right Comparison...
                  Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:34 p.m.
              • No; Poker Not A TV Phenomenon
                lenny -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 6:42 a.m.
                • No; Poker Not A TV Phenomenon
                  Gregg Cattanach -- Friday, 10 July 2009, at 7:29 p.m.
        • Angle shooting and Bronstein clocks
          neilkaz -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 2:35 p.m.
          • Angle shooting and Bronstein clocks
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 4:16 p.m.
            • Good post, Rich
              Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 5:04 p.m.
            • Directors Proceeding With Discretion . . .
              lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:04 a.m.
              • Directors Proceeding With Discretion . . .
                Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:24 a.m.
                • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                  lenny -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 8:57 a.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    Tom Keith -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 2:00 p.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    neilkaz -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 3:06 p.m.
                  • Except Problems Aren't Prevented . . .
                    Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 4:14 p.m.
                    • You're Not Growing
                      lenny -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 6:32 a.m.
    • Another Absurd Failure
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 11:34 p.m.
    • Another Absurd Failure
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 12:37 a.m.
  • Awkward Clock Situation
    Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 4:40 a.m.
    • Awkward Clock Situation
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 2:11 p.m.
  • Perhaps, since this was the FINAL
    garyo -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 11:46 p.m.