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Automatic? Sure?

Posted By: Keene
Date: Friday, 17 July 2009, at 12:04 a.m.

In Response To: Automatic? Sure? (Keene)

So, GNU 2/2 gives my 13/9(2) an error of 0.029, and the rollout reverses it! As I mentioned earlier, I really dont want to stack the 11pt, I think that actually enhances whites position - puts them into a holding game when they are behind in the race - and its what white wants here - IMHO.

Of late, I have been making quite a few automatics, and seeing the occasional ding like this for them too. I plan on posting quite a few of these automatics, then doing the rollouts. Hopefully, they will all get overturned :) I dont expect to see it though.

Rollout here, GNU 2/2 at the bottom.

The score (after 5 games) is: zaman65 4, kilted 4 (match to 7 points)

Move number 12: kilted to play 22

zaman65	142
kilted	119
Position ID: 2M7IAQOUb4MHAA Match ID: QQnpAEAAIAAA

• kilted moves 13/9(2)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	13/9(2)	+0.556
			0.806 0.020 0.001 - 0.194 0.010 0.001 +0.624 +0.556 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.002
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 863980375 and quasi-random dice
			Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/11(4)	+0.529 ( -0.027)
			0.794 0.015 0.001 - 0.206 0.011 0.000 +0.595 +0.529 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.002 0.002
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 863980375 and quasi-random dice
			Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/7 6/4	+0.518 ( -0.039)
			0.788 0.021 0.002 - 0.212 0.013 0.000 +0.587 +0.518 0.001 0.001 0.001 - 0.001 0.002 0.000 0.002 0.002
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 863980375 and quasi-random dice
			Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	4	R	13/7 4/2	+0.510 ( -0.046)
			0.786 0.019 0.001 - 0.214 0.013 0.000 +0.580 +0.510 0.001 0.001 0.001 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.002 0.003
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 863980375 and quasi-random dice
			Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	5	2	13/7 3/1	+0.494 ( -0.062)
			0.784 0.031 0.001 - 0.216 0.014 0.000

The score (after 0 games) is: zaman65 4, kilted 4 (match to 7 points)

Move number 6: kilted to play 22

zaman65	142
kilted	119
Position ID: 2M7IAQOUb4MHAA Match ID: QQnpAEAAIAAA

• kilted moves 13/9(2)

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.029)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	2	13/11(4)	+0.554
			0.807 0.031 0.001 - 0.193 0.009 0.000
•	2	2	13/9(2)	+0.525 ( -0.029)
			0.796 0.029 0.001 - 0.204 0.011 0.000
	3	2	13/7 6/4	+0.509 ( -0.045)
			0.790 0.031 0.001 - 0.210 0.012 0.000
	4	2	13/7 4/2	+0.495 ( -0.059)
			0.784 0.031 0.001 - 0.216 0.013 0.000
	5	2	13/7 3/1	+0.494 ( -0.060)
			0.784 0.031 0.001 - 0.216 0.014 0.000

Messages In This Thread

• Automatic? Sure?
  Keene -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 6:37 a.m.
  • Automatic? Sure?
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 6:43 a.m.
    • Automatic? Sure?
      Christian Munk-Christensen -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 4:26 p.m.
  • Automatic? Sure?
    Joe Russell -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 6:53 a.m.
  • Automatic? Sure?
    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 1:07 p.m.
  • Automatic? Sure?
    Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 1:46 p.m.
    • Automatic? Sure?
      Keene -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 7:06 p.m.
  • Automatic? Sure?
    adambulldog -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 5:11 p.m.
    • Automatic? Sure?
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 6:55 p.m.
    • Automatic? Sure?
      Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 7:15 p.m.
      • Automatic? Sure?
        adambulldog -- Thursday, 16 July 2009, at 7:30 p.m.
  • Automatic? Sure?
    Keene -- Friday, 17 July 2009, at 12:04 a.m.
    • Automatic? Sure?
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 17 July 2009, at 1:19 a.m.
      • Automatic? Sure?
        Keene -- Friday, 17 July 2009, at 1:39 a.m.
        • Automatic? Sure?
          Bill Riles -- Friday, 17 July 2009, at 2:53 a.m.
          • Automatic? Sure?
            Keene -- Friday, 17 July 2009, at 6:27 a.m.
            • Automatic? Sure?
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 17 July 2009, at 6:31 a.m.
      • Automatic? Sure?
        Joe Russell -- Friday, 17 July 2009, at 6:10 a.m.