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Correct to double and correct to beaver

Posted By: Rich Munitz
Date: Friday, 31 July 2009, at 4:05 a.m.

In Response To: Correct to double and correct to beaver (Petter Bengtsson)

It is the Kauder Paradox, not the Jacoby Paradox.

In all the years I've played, I only once encountered a real life position in a money game that turned out upon rollout to have been a correct Double/Beaver as I suspected over the board. Unfortunately I lost the position with a crashed hard drive and can not remember it.

The bots training allows them to understand 99% of positions they encounter in normal play. This allows them to play at an extremely high level. On the other 1% they are often clueless. In the grand scheme of things, there are two problems: software development resources are limited and they have more important things to work on first; and neural nets are touchy - train them too much on the unlikely and they may lose clarity on the likely.

Messages In This Thread

• Correct to double and correct to beaver
  Timothy Chow -- Friday, 31 July 2009, at 1:05 a.m.
  • Correct to double and correct to beaver
    Petter Bengtsson -- Friday, 31 July 2009, at 1:25 a.m.
    • Correct to double and correct to beaver
      Rich Munitz -- Friday, 31 July 2009, at 4:05 a.m.
      • Jacoby Paradox
        Petter Bengtsson -- Friday, 31 July 2009, at 4:26 a.m.
        • My opinion of the Jacoby Rule is well known
          neilkaz -- Saturday, 1 August 2009, at 12:59 a.m.
      • Correct to double and correct to beaver
        Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 1 August 2009, at 12:18 a.m.
        • Correct to double and correct to beaver
          Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 5:19 a.m.
          • Correct to double and correct to beaver
            Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 8:34 a.m.
            • Correct to double and correct to beaver
              Petter Bengtsson -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 8:52 a.m.
              • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 9:14 a.m.
              • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 1:09 p.m.
            • Correct to double and correct to beaver
              Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 3:14 p.m.
              • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 3:31 p.m.
                • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                  Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 5:30 p.m.
              • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 3:47 p.m.
                • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                  Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 10:03 p.m.
                  • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                    Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 10:12 p.m.
                    • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                      Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 11:17 p.m.
                      • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                        Casper van der Tak -- Friday, 11 June 2010, at 11:52 p.m.
      • Kauder paradox example from real game
        eXtreme Gammon -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 6:16 p.m.
        • Kauder paradox example from real game
          Dorn Bishop -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 8:52 p.m.
        • Kauder paradox example from real game
          Timothy Chow -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 9:09 p.m.
        • Kauder paradox example from real game
          Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 9:26 p.m.
          • Kauder paradox example from real game
            Petter Bengtsson -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 9:31 p.m.
  • Correct to double and correct to beaver
    Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 10 June 2010, at 1:02 a.m.
    • Correct to double and correct to beaver
      Seth -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 4:42 p.m.
      • Correct to double and correct to beaver
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 4:58 p.m.
        • Correct to double and correct to beaver
          Casper van der Tak -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 5:24 p.m.
      • Correct to double and correct to beaver
        Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 7:58 p.m.
        • Correct to double and correct to beaver
          Seth -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 10:57 p.m.
          • Correct to double and correct to beaver
            Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 11:30 p.m.
            • Correct to double and correct to beaver
              Seth -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 2:48 a.m.
              • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 2:52 a.m.
                • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                  Stick -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:04 a.m.
                  • Correct to double and correct to beaver
                    Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 4:01 a.m.
          • Correct to double and correct to beaver
            Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 1:19 a.m.
            • Correct to -- correction
              Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 2:25 a.m.
          • Correct to double and correct to beaver
            Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:41 a.m.