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XG Roller

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 8:20 p.m.

In Response To: Depreli Positions 1-100 (Frank Berger)

Frank "AFAIK XG Roller uses a short rollout for evaluation, therefore I guess it doesn't make much sense as a setting for rollouts..."

Neil.. AFAIR XG roller is trucated at 6ply with 2 ply used for the first 2 steps and 1 ply used for the remaining 4 steps.

Neil.. (and I may be quoted here) "I disagree with you quite strongly here and think that using something like XG roller to make plays and cube decisions in rollouts is the way forward for bots. XG roller is stronger than 3 ply and Xavier has told me that it is somewhat stronger than 4 ply, and yet it is faster than 4 ply. Even on my archaic single core home computer (2.4 Ghz) XG roller is very quick. Extreme Gammon is supposed to support multiple cores, so one can imagine that decisions with XG roller would be blazingly fast, but even on my archaic computer I don't think a 1296 game rollout using XG roller would take prohibitively long"

Messages In This Thread

• Depreli Positions 1-100
  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 3:01 a.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 3:20 a.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Frank Berger -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 7:49 p.m.
      • XG Roller
        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 8:20 p.m.
        • XG Roller
          Frank Berger -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 9:10 p.m.
          • XG Roller
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 10:06 p.m.
            • XG Roller
              neilkaz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 10:28 p.m.
              • Ever since I saw the first JF prototype.....
                neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
            • XG Roller
              Stein Kulseth -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 9:17 a.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      eXtreme Gammon -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Thx Matt !!
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 3:29 a.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    Coolrey -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 11:30 a.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Stick -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 11:41 a.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 12:49 p.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Stick -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 5:35 p.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 6:42 p.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    phlegethos -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 5:24 p.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Stick -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 5:33 p.m.
  • depth vs breadth
    Matt Reklaitis -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 9:39 p.m.
    • depth vs breadth
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 3:53 a.m.
      • depth vs breadth
        Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:36 p.m.
        • depth vs breadth
          Frank Berger -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 8:47 p.m.
    • depth vs breadth
      Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 5:01 p.m.
      • depth vs breadth
        Matt Reklaitis -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 5:30 p.m.
  • I Picked #6 At Random
    lenny -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 1:46 a.m.
    • I Picked #6 At Random
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 3:36 a.m.
      • I Picked #6 At Random
        lenny -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 3:54 a.m.
        • I Picked #6 At Random
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:01 a.m.
          • My QDRO
            lenny -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:27 a.m.
            • My QDRO
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:36 a.m.
              • My QDRO
                lenny -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 6:00 a.m.
                • My QDRO
                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 6:28 a.m.
                  • My QDRO
                    lenny -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 3:25 a.m.
                    • My QDRO
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 3:39 a.m.
                    • My QDRO
                      neilkaz -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 3:42 a.m.
        • I Picked #6 At Random
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:02 a.m.
    • I Picked #6 At Random
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 3:41 a.m.
    • Long GNU rollout says coming out is clear
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:16 p.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    Ian Shaw -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 12:43 p.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    eXtreme Gammon -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 4:51 p.m.
  • Definitely read this
    Chuck Bower -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 3:58 p.m.
    • Definitely read this
      MaX -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 4:03 p.m.
      • cut and pasted post by Depreli
        Chuck Bower -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 4:22 p.m.
        • cut and pasted post by Depreli
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 7:04 p.m.
          • cut and pasted post by Depreli
            Stick -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 8:42 p.m.
          • cut and pasted post by Depreli
            Frank Berger -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 8:17 a.m.
            • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
              Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 5:56 p.m.
              • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 6:19 p.m.
                • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                  Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 1:21 p.m.
                  • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                    Frank Berger -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 2:31 p.m.
                    • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                      Maik Stiebler -- Monday, 24 August 2009, at 6:50 a.m.
                  • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 3:20 p.m.
              • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                Frank Berger -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 8:17 a.m.
            • cut and pasted post by Depreli
              eXtreme Gammon -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 5:44 p.m.
              • cut and pasted post by Depreli
                Frank Berger -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 7:17 p.m.