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depth vs breadth

Posted By: Frank Berger
Date: Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 8:47 p.m.

In Response To: depth vs breadth (Chuck Bower)

This opens old wounds. I know that for years people have wanted some kind of common interface so bots could compete head-to-head quickly.

Yes, yes, yes. There is a bot that is able (and does) host several AIs (TachiAI, Aigammon, Eggammon, pubeval, guru but I have no rights to publish them and I did all the integration code and porting to Java). The interest seems to be very low. Really weird. And even old heroes aren't interested. Wouldn't it be nice having mloner or TD-Gammon running on your PC and compare with current bots? Neither author is interested (to make that sure: I would have supported them, write the integration code accept any disclosure agreement and leave it totally to the authors how to publish it, so it was IMHO a very fair offer) And it is a lot easier to write an AI than to write a full client.

(From what I know Dueler is slow because it has to pattern recognize checkers being moved on a screen! That's not a slam at dueler as this was the best way to handle a heels-dug in situation.)

Dueller also supports a TCP/IP protocol. I discussed that with Tony, he designed it and I implemented it in BGB. If Tony is asked, he might make the specification publicly available and add support for further bots (and fix some quirks with the latest BGB ;))

Messages In This Thread

• Depreli Positions 1-100
  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 3:01 a.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 3:20 a.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Frank Berger -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 7:49 p.m.
      • XG Roller
        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 8:20 p.m.
        • XG Roller
          Frank Berger -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 9:10 p.m.
          • XG Roller
            Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 10:06 p.m.
            • XG Roller
              neilkaz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 10:28 p.m.
              • Ever since I saw the first JF prototype.....
                neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:11 a.m.
            • XG Roller
              Stein Kulseth -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 9:17 a.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      eXtreme Gammon -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Thx Matt !!
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 3:29 a.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    Coolrey -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 11:30 a.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Stick -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 11:41 a.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 12:49 p.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Stick -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 5:35 p.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 6:42 p.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    phlegethos -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 5:24 p.m.
    • Depreli Positions 1-100
      Stick -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 5:33 p.m.
  • depth vs breadth
    Matt Reklaitis -- Tuesday, 18 August 2009, at 9:39 p.m.
    • depth vs breadth
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 3:53 a.m.
      • depth vs breadth
        Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:36 p.m.
        • depth vs breadth
          Frank Berger -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 8:47 p.m.
    • depth vs breadth
      Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 5:01 p.m.
      • depth vs breadth
        Matt Reklaitis -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 5:30 p.m.
  • I Picked #6 At Random
    lenny -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 1:46 a.m.
    • I Picked #6 At Random
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 3:36 a.m.
      • I Picked #6 At Random
        lenny -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 3:54 a.m.
        • I Picked #6 At Random
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:01 a.m.
          • My QDRO
            lenny -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:27 a.m.
            • My QDRO
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:36 a.m.
              • My QDRO
                lenny -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 6:00 a.m.
                • My QDRO
                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 6:28 a.m.
                  • My QDRO
                    lenny -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 3:25 a.m.
                    • My QDRO
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 3:39 a.m.
                    • My QDRO
                      neilkaz -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 3:42 a.m.
        • I Picked #6 At Random
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:02 a.m.
    • I Picked #6 At Random
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 3:41 a.m.
    • Long GNU rollout says coming out is clear
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 4:16 p.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    Ian Shaw -- Wednesday, 19 August 2009, at 12:43 p.m.
  • Depreli Positions 1-100
    eXtreme Gammon -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 4:51 p.m.
  • Definitely read this
    Chuck Bower -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 3:58 p.m.
    • Definitely read this
      MaX -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 4:03 p.m.
      • cut and pasted post by Depreli
        Chuck Bower -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 4:22 p.m.
        • cut and pasted post by Depreli
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 7:04 p.m.
          • cut and pasted post by Depreli
            Stick -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 8:42 p.m.
          • cut and pasted post by Depreli
            Frank Berger -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 8:17 a.m.
            • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
              Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 5:56 p.m.
              • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 6:19 p.m.
                • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                  Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 1:21 p.m.
                  • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                    Frank Berger -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 2:31 p.m.
                    • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                      Maik Stiebler -- Monday, 24 August 2009, at 6:50 a.m.
                  • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 3:20 p.m.
              • Are we missing the most important point by Michael?
                Frank Berger -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 8:17 a.m.
            • cut and pasted post by Depreli
              eXtreme Gammon -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 5:44 p.m.
              • cut and pasted post by Depreli
                Frank Berger -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 7:17 p.m.