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Premature roll ruling

Posted By: phil simborg
Date: Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 2:18 p.m.

In Response To: Premature roll ruling (Bob Koca)

One of the major things "missing" from the rules of backgammon is an overall "policy" that would state that in the event of a dispute, or a question of what is fair, the ruling should tend to go against the player who took an action that created the problem. So if the evidence is gone, or the premature roll is cocked, or the player quickly picked up his dice, or his partner intentionally interfered with the roll, etc. etc., the rule should tend to go against the side that rolled early, or that interefered with the dice, etc. etc.

If there is a doubt about capricious handling of the cube (which should be more clearly defined, by the way), the ruling should generally tend to go against the party that reached for or touched the cube or gave some indication that he was going to double...he's the one who "caused" the problem, or ambiguity, or question, in the first place, and when there is doubt as to what really happened or how severe it was, it should go against the one who caused the action.

Messages In This Thread

• Premature roll ruling
  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 4:24 a.m.
  • Premature roll ruling
    Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 5:06 a.m.
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      Bob Koca -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 12:57 p.m.
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        Chiva Tafazzoli -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 1:06 p.m.
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          Bob Koca -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 1:10 p.m.
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            phil simborg -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 2:18 p.m.
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              Kenny Nissen -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 4:29 p.m.
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        phil simborg -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 2:13 p.m.
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          Seth -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 11:24 p.m.
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          Chuck Bower -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 4:35 p.m.
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            Phil Simborg -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 3:42 a.m.
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              Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 4:29 p.m.
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                Barry Silliman -- Tuesday, 25 August 2009, at 12:15 a.m.
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              Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 5:36 p.m.
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              TarHeelFan -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 7:35 p.m.
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      Jason Lee -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 2:21 p.m.
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      rory -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 3:12 p.m.
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      Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 6:13 p.m.
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      joe freedman -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 7:20 p.m.
    • clearly they should have been penalized ---
      garyo -- Friday, 21 August 2009, at 6:27 p.m.
      • clearly they should have been penalized ---
        phil simborg -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 3:31 a.m.
        • clearly they should have been penalized ---
          garyo -- Saturday, 22 August 2009, at 4:19 p.m.
          • clearly they should have been penalized ---
            Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 23 August 2009, at 3:04 a.m.
  • Premature roll ruling
    Stein Kulseth -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 7:49 a.m.
  • only solution is clock
    alex21 -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 11:59 a.m.
  • What's the ruling in DK? UK? *NM*
    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 1:06 p.m.
    • What's the ruling in DK? UK?
      Christian Munk-Christensen -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 6:51 p.m.
      • What's the ruling in DK? UK?
        Jason Lee -- Thursday, 20 August 2009, at 6:59 p.m.