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3-away 5-away RO

Posted By: Matt Cohn-Geier
Date: Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 4:26 p.m.

In Response To: 3-away 5-away (Matt Cohn-Geier)

So I missed a cube here and also in the other two. I guess I found a hole in my game. I was often cubing fast enough at 3-away 4-away but not at 3-away 5-away and 3-away 6-away. 3-away 7-away and more generally shouldn't be cubed.

Anyway, I still have no idea what is going on at this score with respect to the GVs on a 1 cube & 2 cube, the trailer's recube vig to 4, etc. Hopefully I'll figure it out after playing against the bots some more.

Summary:

Money: huge pass (duh), don't know about TG or not
-3 -4: huge pass, but not TG (lost RO)
-3 -5: huge cube, close T/P (leaning towards pass)
-3 -6: huge take, close D/ND
-3 -7: huge ND

GNU gets the recube action after a fan correct, so that is not a concern.

The score (after 0 games) is: White 2, Blue 4 (match to 7 points)

Move number 2: Blue on roll, cube decision?

White	138
Blue	133
Position ID: M5slAFRsW4MBSA Match ID: cAngACAAIAAA

• Blue doubles

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.8218	(Money: +0.7752)
Cubeful equities:
1.	Double, pass	+1.0000
2.	Double, take	+1.0197	+0.0197
3.	No double	+0.8508	-0.1492
Proper cube action:		Double, pass
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.7314 0.3728 0.0587 - 0.2686 0.1135 0.0056 +0.8218 +0.8508 Standard error 0.0006 0.0009 0.0008 - 0.0006 0.0004 0.0002 0.0022 0.0035 Player White owns 2-cube 0.7422 0.3559 0.1073 - 0.2578 0.1060 0.0077 +1.4510 +1.0197 Standard error 0.0007 0.0014 0.0017 - 0.0007 0.0005 0.0004 0.0042 0.0059
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
9328 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 865919386 and quasi-random dice
Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.2
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 1, Blue 4 (match to 7 points)

Move number 2: Blue on roll, cube decision?

White	138
Blue	133
Position ID: M5slAFRsW4MBSA Match ID: cAngABAAIAAA

• Blue doubles

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.8051	(Money: +0.7821)
Cubeful equities:
1.	Double, take	+0.7800
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+0.2200
3.	No double	+0.7719	-0.0080
Proper cube action:		Double, take
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.7388 0.3626 0.0560 - 0.2612 0.1088 0.0052 +0.8051 +0.7719 Standard error 0.0004 0.0007 0.0006 - 0.0004 0.0003 0.0001 0.0015 0.0023 Player White owns 2-cube 0.7402 0.3796 0.1142 - 0.2598 0.1054 0.0079 +1.0800 +0.7800 Standard error 0.0005 0.0013 0.0013 - 0.0005 0.0003 0.0003 0.0030 0.0045
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
19366 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 866110598 and quasi-random dice
Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.2
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 4 (match to 7 points)

Move number 2: Blue on roll, cube decision?

White	138
Blue	133
Position ID: M5slAFRsW4MBSA Match ID: cAngAAAAIAAA

• Blue doubles

Alert: wrong double ( -0.3041)! [very bad]

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.7535	(Money: +0.7869)
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	+0.7031
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+0.2969
3.	Double, take	+0.3990	-0.3041
Proper cube action:		No double, take (50.6%)
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.7413 0.3609 0.0562 - 0.2587 0.1076 0.0050 +0.7535 +0.7031 Standard error 0.0017 0.0024 0.0022 - 0.0017 0.0011 0.0004 0.0057 0.0084 Player White owns 2-cube 0.7402 0.3750 0.1221 - 0.2598 0.1045 0.0059 +0.7998 +0.3990 Standard error 0.0019 0.0048 0.0054 - 0.0019 0.0012 0.0007 0.0131 0.0188
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 865356475 and quasi-random dice
Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.2
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• 3-away 5-away
  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 4:12 a.m.
  • 3-away 5-away
    John O'Hagan -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 5:22 a.m.
  • 3-away 5-away
    Keene -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 2:29 p.m.
  • 3-away 5-away
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 22 September 2009, at 4:01 p.m.
  • 3-away 5-away
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 8:27 a.m.
  • 3-away 5-away RO
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, at 4:26 p.m.