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Example : 62S - 55 - Dance

Posted By: Fabrice Liardet
Date: Sunday, 18 October 2009, at 9:54 a.m.

In Response To: BOT Comparison some early data (Michael Depreli)

OK, here we are with that example. It did not take me much work to find and I think that the discrepancy is rather typical. But it seems indeed a bit smaller when I avoid truncating the rollout.

As I said XG 3-ply has almost exactly the same eval. I don't own Snowie but it is very possible that all 3 bots would agree about the take.

The score (after 0 games) is: GNU 0, nabla 0 (match to 7 points)

Move number 4: nabla on roll, cube decision?

GNU	160
nabla	147
Position ID: 4HPkQUAzTvABMA Match ID: cAngAAAAAAAA

• nabla doubles

Décision de videau
Simulation cubeless equity		+0.642	(Money: +0.627)
Équités avec videau :
1.	Double, passe	+1.000
2.	Double, accepte	+1.086	+0.086
3.	Pas de double	+0.831	-0.169
Proper cube action:		Double, passe
Rollout details
Gagne G g G bg Perd P g P bg Sans videau Avec videau Videau à 1 au centre 0.656 0.381 0.016 - 0.344 0.078 0.005 +0.642 +0.831 Erreur-type 0.001 0.002 0.001 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.004 0.010 Le joueur GNU a le videau à 2 0.664 0.391 0.015 - 0.336 0.076 0.009 +1.376 +1.086 Erreur-type 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.002 0.009 0.013
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 871622893 and quasi-random dice
Play: champion 2-ply cubeful prune [champion]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [champion]

Décision de videau
2-coup cubeless equity		+0.618	(Money: +0.605)
	0.648 0.380 0.015 - 0.352 0.082 0.004
Équités avec videau :
	2-ply cubeful prune [champion]
1.	Double, accepte	+0.976
2.	Double, passe	+1.000	+0.024
3.	Pas de double	+0.796	-0.180
Proper cube action:		Double, accepte

Messages In This Thread

• BOT Comparison some early data
  Michael Depreli -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 3:09 p.m.
  • BOT Comparison some early data
    neilkaz -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 3:34 p.m.
    • BOT Comparison some early data
      Michael Depreli -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 3:53 p.m.
      • BOT Comparison some early data
        neilkaz -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 3:56 p.m.
  • BOT Comparison some early data
    Rich Munitz -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 3:56 p.m.
    • BOT plies
      neilkaz -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 4:06 p.m.
    • BOT Comparison some early data
      Michael Depreli -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 4:29 p.m.
  • BOT Comparison some early data
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 5:28 p.m.
    • BOT Comparison some early data
      Timothy Chow -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 5:44 p.m.
  • BOT Comparison some early data
    neilkaz -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 5:33 p.m.
    • Reply to MCG re: headings above *NM*
      neilkaz -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 5:47 p.m.
  • BOT Comparison some early data
    Fabrice Liardet -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 7:44 p.m.
    • BOT Comparison some early data
      Michael Depreli -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 8:48 p.m.
      • BOT Comparison some early data
        Fabrice Liardet -- Saturday, 17 October 2009, at 3:58 p.m.
        • BOT Comparison some early data
          Michael Depreli -- Saturday, 17 October 2009, at 4:45 p.m.
          • BOT Comparison some early data
            neilkaz -- Saturday, 17 October 2009, at 5:33 p.m.
          • BOT Comparison some early data
            Fabrice Liardet -- Saturday, 17 October 2009, at 6:56 p.m.
      • Example : 62S - 55 - Dance
        Fabrice Liardet -- Sunday, 18 October 2009, at 9:54 a.m.
        • Example : 62S - 55 - Dance
          Michael Depreli -- Sunday, 18 October 2009, at 10:42 a.m.
  • Rollout volunteer
    Mislav Radica -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 8:25 p.m.
    • Rollout volunteer .. what to expect
      neilkaz -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 10:25 p.m.
  • BOT Comparison some early data
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 9:06 p.m.
  • BOT Comparison some early data
    Ian Shaw -- Sunday, 18 October 2009, at 12:31 p.m.
    • BOT Comparison some early data
      Michael Depreli -- Sunday, 18 October 2009, at 12:38 p.m.