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Beaver vs. Extras

Posted By: mamabear
Date: Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 11:40 a.m.

In Response To: History of Abolishing the Jacoby rule (Phil Simborg)

Requiring the lone taker to take extras has a lot of advantages over requiring the lone taker to beaver. These reasons also apply favoring extras rather than simply not allowing anyone to take alone, a rule I haven't seen in years.

1. It doesn't force the lone taker who is right, to make additional calculations as to whether it is better to beaver or drop a clear take. This has happened to me, though only on one occasion. I ended up calculating (as best I could do, given that I had to make assumptions about a lot of stuff) and figured it was a skinny pass, so I beavered it and won. Fun times, but it's still a stupid concept, and it didn't "speed up the game" or get anyone else into action any faster.

2. It gives those who might be complaining about lack of action, a chance to get some that presumably is in their favor, if they honestly believe the position was a pass.

3. It nixes a chance at corruption creeping in, when 2 or 3 weak players pass a weak player in the Box, just to prevent the strong Captain from getting the Box against 3 or 4 weak opponents. This might happen without any conscious or pre-arranged corruption, especially if they all think the take/pass decision is a close call.

Messages In This Thread

• History of Jacoby rule
  Timothy Chow -- Friday, 30 October 2009, at 12:22 a.m.
  • History of Jacoby rule
    Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 30 October 2009, at 1:15 a.m.
    • History of Jacoby rule
      Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 30 October 2009, at 1:16 a.m.
  • History of Abolishing the Jacoby rule
    neilkaz -- Friday, 30 October 2009, at 2:11 p.m.
    • History of Abolishing the Jacoby rule
      Phil Simborg -- Friday, 30 October 2009, at 3:00 p.m.
      • History of Abolishing the Jacoby rule
        Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 1:27 a.m.
        • History of Abolishing the Jacoby rule
          Steve Mellen -- Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 1:43 a.m.
          • History of Abolishing the Jacoby rule
            Phil Simborg -- Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 2:13 a.m.
            • Extras= YES... must Beaver means I don't play in that chou *NM*
              neilkaz -- Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 4:27 a.m.
            • Beaver vs. Extras
              mamabear -- Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 11:40 a.m.
              • Beaver vs. Extras
                mamabear -- Sunday, 1 November 2009, at 6:35 p.m.
              • Beaver vs. Extras
                Seth -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 2:24 p.m.
                • Beaver vs. Extras
                  Gregg Cattanach -- Tuesday, 3 November 2009, at 4:02 p.m.
                  • Thanks, Gregg for explanation of extras.*NM* *NM*
                    Seth -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, at 3:43 a.m.
    • History of Abolishing the Jacoby rule
      Steve Mellen -- Friday, 30 October 2009, at 11:23 p.m.
    • History of Abolishing the Jacoby rule
      Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 12:35 p.m.
  • History of Jacoby rule
    Tom Keith -- Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 2:18 p.m.
    • Thanks, Tom! *NM*
      Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 31 October 2009, at 3:43 p.m.
    • History of Jacoby rule
      garyo -- Sunday, 1 November 2009, at 7:23 p.m.
    • History of Jacoby rule
      Chuck Bower -- Monday, 2 November 2009, at 1:03 a.m.