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Shino wins WSOB 2010

Posted By: Gregg Cattanach
Date: Monday, 8 February 2010, at 7:34 p.m.

In Response To: Shino wins WSOB 2010 (Phil Simborg)

Fortunately, everyone is innocent until proven guilty...

I hate it when people say this because it is false. If someone commits a crime, they are guilty of that crime from the moment they commit it until they die, regardless of what is proven or not.

The concept you are looking for only applies inside a court of law where the defendent is PRESUMED to be innocent until proven guilty by the legal process. Even there, the accused isn't 'innocent' until proven guilty.

As far as banning someone from a private, voluntary organization or event, the level of evidence required is almost always far less than what is necessary to incarcerate someone. When you put someone in jail you are depriving them of a basic civil right. No one has a 'right' to be a member of the USBGF, for example, or participate in an invitational backgammon tournament.

Messages In This Thread

• Shino wins WSOB 2010
  Elliott Winslow -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 10:59 a.m.
  • Shino wins WSOB 2010
    Bill Riles -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 1:49 p.m.
    • Shino wins WSOB 2010
      neilkaz -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 4:34 p.m.
      • Shino wins WSOB 2010
        Phil Simborg -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 5:22 p.m.
        • Shino wins WSOB 2010
          Sam Pottle -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 6:00 p.m.
        • The Hats
          KenB -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 6:52 p.m.
        • Shino wins WSOB 2010
          Gregg Cattanach -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 7:34 p.m.
          • Shino wins WSOB 2010
            Bill Riles -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 7:43 p.m.
            • Shino wins WSOB 2010
              Chiva Tafazzoli -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 11:32 p.m.
            • Shino wins WSOB 2010
              Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 1:58 p.m.
              • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                Michael Crane -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 4:06 p.m.
                • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                  Stick -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 4:24 p.m.
                  • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                    Chiva Tafazzoli -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 8:06 p.m.
                  • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                    Michael Crane -- Thursday, 11 February 2010, at 8:40 a.m.
                • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                  Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 6:06 p.m.
                  • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                    Michael Crane -- Thursday, 11 February 2010, at 8:34 a.m.
      • Shino wins WSOB 2010
        Bill Riles -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 10:36 p.m.
    • Shino wins WSOB 2010
      Steve Mellen -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 4:38 p.m.
      • Shino wins WSOB 2010
        Bill Riles -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 5:08 p.m.
    • Shino wins WSOB 2010
      Stick -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 6:51 p.m.
      • Shino wins WSOB 2010
        Steve Mellen -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 7:53 p.m.
        • Shino wins WSOB 2010
          Stick -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 8:37 p.m.
          • Shino wins WSOB 2010
            Steve Mellen -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 9:40 p.m.
            • Shino wins WSOB 2010
              Stick -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 10:11 p.m.
              • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                Bill Riles -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 10:19 p.m.
              • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                Steve Mellen -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 10:57 p.m.
                • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                  Stick -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 11:14 p.m.
                  • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                    Steve Mellen -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 11:27 p.m.
                    • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                      Stick -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 11:38 p.m.
                      • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                        Steve Mellen -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 11:53 p.m.
                        • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                          Stick -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 12:02 a.m.
                          • Shino wins WSOB 2010 (ABOUT SHINO)
                            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 1:46 a.m.
                    • Shino wins WSOB 2010
                      Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 12:35 a.m.
          • Shino wins WSOB 2010
            Timothy Chow -- Monday, 8 February 2010, at 10:02 p.m.
    • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
      Christian Plenz -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 2:52 a.m.
      • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
        Stick -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 3:46 a.m.
        • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
          Christian Plenz -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 4:05 a.m.
          • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
            neilkaz -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 5:11 p.m.
            • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
              Chiva Tafazzoli -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 5:58 p.m.
              • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
                neilkaz -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 6:27 p.m.
              • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
                mfic -- Sunday, 14 February 2010, at 10:03 p.m.
      • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
        Petter Bengtsson -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 3:57 a.m.
        • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
          Stick -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 4:10 a.m.
        • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
          Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 4:12 a.m.
        • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
          jdg -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 5:41 p.m.
      • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
        Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 4:05 a.m.
        • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
          Christian Plenz -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 1:06 p.m.
          • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
            Havard Raddum -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 2:20 p.m.
          • Illegal moves and clocks and time pressure
            neilkaz -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 5:55 p.m.
          • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 7:07 p.m.
            • I slighly have to disagree, Bill. It's not PJT, it is Shino
              ragoon -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 9:56 a.m.
    • Shino wins WSOB 2010
      Carter Mattig -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 10:14 p.m.
      • Shino wins WSOB 2010
        Mike Main -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 11:11 p.m.
        • Shino wins WSOB 2010
          neilkaz -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 11:21 p.m.
          • Shino wins WSOB 2010
            Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 11:41 p.m.
            • Shino wins WSOB 2010
              neilkaz -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 1:57 a.m.
        • Shino wins WSOB 2010
          Carter Mattig -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 1:15 a.m.
          • Shino wins WSOB 2010
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 3:42 a.m.
          • Shino wins WSOB 2010
            Chiva Tafazzoli -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 10:30 a.m.
        • Shino wins WSOB 2010
          John O'Hagan -- Wednesday, 10 February 2010, at 1:39 a.m.