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Snowie-3, Snowie-4, Jellyfish, GNU and eXtreme rollouts all like 2pt with 64

Posted By: Matt Cohn-Geier
Date: Tuesday, 9 February 2010, at 6:46 a.m.

In Response To: Snowie-3, Snowie-4, Jellyfish, GNU and eXtreme rollouts all like 2pt with 64 (Stick)

As far as I am concerned, the most fascinating position in all of backgammon is how to play 64 from the opening position.

This is one of the least interesting IMO. But to each his own.

I have seen very long rollouts on five bots (Jellyfish, Snowie-3, Snowie-4, GNU and eXtremeGammon) and all concur that making the 2pt is best by about 0.005.

If we had this much consistency about any other position, most players would accept the unanimous rollout results of the five bots.

That seems unlikely. As pointed out a difference of .005 could just be noise.

When you started playing backgammon, some good kind soul was there for you, "teaching" you and warning you, "The 2pt is too deep to make with opening 64." I am sure this good kind soul had the best of intentions,

I had no kind soul teaching me such things. Actually I had kind souls (in particular, JellyFish) teaching me that making the 2pt with 64 was probably correct.

I am predicting that within five years, the majority of championship tournament players will be making the 2pt with opening 64 in money situations.

I almost never make the 2pt, except at pure GG. I don't expect to switch anytime soon.

In fact I would probably be more surprised if the 2pt turned out to be correct on bot ROs 5 years from now.

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