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Stick's sword revisited

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 6:31 p.m.

In Response To: Stick's sword revisited (Chuck Bower)

Chuck wrote:

My interpretation of Ian's comment was that he was looking at the earlier rollout, which had a live cube(?).

Ah, so the "swing" is compared to Stick's rollout, rather than compared to a cubeless game. Is that what you meant, Ian?

For what it's worth, here's a money-game rollout.

gnubg	180
tchow	136
Position ID: sDNmAA+w5xwDCA Match ID: cIkEAAAAAAAA

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	6/4(2)	+0.875
			0.697 0.211 0.008 - 0.303 0.049 0.002 +0.564 +0.875 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.002 0.006
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 844274271 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	10/9(3) 6/5	+0.848 ( -0.027)
			0.682 0.245 0.010 - 0.318 0.061 0.003 +0.555 +0.848 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 844274271 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	22/21 10/9(3)	+0.846 ( -0.030)
			0.686 0.236 0.010 - 0.314 0.061 0.002 +0.555 +0.846 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 844274271 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	4	R	10/7 8/7	+0.839 ( -0.036)
			0.684 0.228 0.010 - 0.316 0.055 0.002 +0.549 +0.839 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.002 0.006
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 844274271 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• Stick's sword revisited
  Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 2:49 a.m.
  • Stick's sword revisited
    Rich Munitz -- Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 5:51 a.m.
    • Stick's sword revisited
      Ian Shaw -- Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 10:44 a.m.
      • Stick's sword revisited
        Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 4:59 p.m.
        • Stick's sword revisited
          Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 6:08 p.m.
          • Stick's sword revisited
            Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 6:31 p.m.
        • Stick's sword revisited
          Ian Shaw -- Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 11:50 p.m.
  • Stick's sword revisited
    lenny -- Wednesday, 17 February 2010, at 6:07 a.m.