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Nactating Sapporo Open 2008, game 2, 1/2.
Posted By: Nack Ballard In Response To: Nactating Sapporo Open 2008, game 2, 1/2. (storm)
Date: Monday, 15 March 2010, at 11:35 p.m.
White goes first:52: 13/8 13/11, 53: 8/3 6/3, 65: 24/13 55:
storm: What are your preferences for the only move here [13/8(2) 6/1*(2)]? I would like to prefer N over both P and H, but my fingers disagree and choose P.
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Nack: I like your initial preference of N; it describes the entire move without use of convention or assumption.
Your chosen P (Point) is fine; the other two 5s (13/8(2)) follow the 6pt convention, and even if it didn't then by assumption it would be the obvious move.
Stick assumes that two of the 5s (obviously) point on the ace point, and uses T for the other two 5s played 13/8(2); this is perfectly fine as well. Indeed, the right move is so obvious that arguably you can get by with no character at all.
H typically applies to a loose hit and would be misleading here.
Continuation:
55: 13/8(2) 6/1*(2), 66: fan, 54: 24/15, 42: Bar/21 13/11, 32:
For White's 24/21 15/13, your choice of U is fine. U (Up) generally describes a movement within the 25pt to 18pt area, but the 15pt checker is the next backmost checker so it qualifies for the other half of the capital U designation.
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In a similar vein, I most often use R to describe moves like this. 15/13 is the rigorously defined Running movement, and the backmost checker for the other half of the move (24/21) gets the capital R.
Stick chose L, a good selection based on assumption. The only Lifting move is 15/13, and the obvious 3 in that case is 24/21.
By the way, earlier in the sequence, you used "fan," the clearest way to fill the space if you want all roll+play designations to be three characters. If for some reason you want to indicate the roll as well, 66^ is a good alternative (the caret being suggestive of an up-arrow that points to the roof).
If you prefer brevity, as Stick does (and I often do), you can simply use "F" to indicate fan. (It is a lone character without a roll, so it can't mean Float.) Likewise, when no roll is listed, C = Cube, R = Recube, P = Pass, T = Take, and B = Beaver. Or, you can use three-letter abbreviations such as cub, rcb, pss, tak, and bvr.
Continuation:
32: 24/21 15/13, 31: 8/5 6/5, 42: 8/6 8/4*, 53:
For White's Bar/20 8/5, you used F (Floating the spare), while Stick used I (In). Another valid choice is C (Cross the bar); I have no real preference among the three. Another perfectly good option is 5 (5pt).
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Continuation:
53: Bar/20 8/5, 61:
storm: The play was 13/6 with 616, 61O, 61T, 61I and 61D (playing the ace closest to the 6-point) as options. I prefer avoiding numerals when possible and ended up using T.
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Nack: Any of 6, O, T and I are fine. (I'd avoid D because it can be used for moving checkers within the outer board.)
By the way, you don't need to repeat 61 before each character (any more than you would repeat the roll before each member of a series of traditional notations).
Continuation:
61: 13/6, 65:
storm: Here is where my real nactating problems in this game start showing up. The play was 20/14 13/8 and I am not sure which element of the R-family to choose and which conventions to use. I wouldn't use R, as I assume that is the play 20/14/9. Attempting to apply the 6-point convention I would end up choosing R with very limited hope for success.
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Nack: As you say, R = 20/14/9. By current rules, after you've exhausted all orthodox R plays, you apply subsequent members of the R family to the next backmost checker, etc. Thus, r = 20/14 13/8, R = 20/14 11/6, and r = 20/14 8/3. That said, if you used R here, I would most likely assume a misallocation (unless perhaps if White were a novice player) so you could get by with it.
U and R are far-side oriented letters, and it works better to tie in a backmost convention for offbeat usage. Conversely, letters that typically have at least part of the move in a near-side quadrant (the main category) use a 6pt convention. Stick's recommendation of B falls into the latter (main) category.
For B, half the move is on the far side, and half the move is to or within one's own outer board. For reference, click on your reference guide and then on "extended def of B" (or click here directly) and read the 41B = 18/14 10/9 example, with explanation.
In the position above (White to play 65), B = 20/14 13/8 (and b = 20/14/9, further from 6pt).
A third option is the italic 4 (or non-italic 4, getting by on assumption -- who would play 20/14 11/6?). White can't legally play a checker to her 4pt, so it defaults to the 14pt, and the 6pt convention does the rest.
Continuation:
65: 20/14 13/8, 61: 13/7 8/7, 21: 6/4* 5/4, 66: fan
If this is the end of the game, you can finish off with "cub-pss" or "C-P."
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Nack
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