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New Take Point and POG Tables

Posted By: Chase
Date: Sunday, 21 March 2010, at 12:37 p.m.

In Response To: New Take Point and POG Tables (rew)

"Many people believe that in a money game the average cubeefficiency is about 70%, so that the average takepoint is 70% between 25% (dead) and 20% (100% live) which is 21.5%.

In match play this should translate to that at even mathscore the cubeefficeny is also 70%, but when you are trailing you have more than 70% efficiency and if you are leading you have less than 70% efficiency."

When the G11 MET came out, I constructed a very similar chart to the one Phil created, and I've recently updated it with the R-K numbers, which produced some small changes. Instead of showing the "average" take point, I show the take point assuming 70% cube efficiency, as you suggest. This can make a big difference. In one case Phil's chart shows a take point of 28% compared to 25% on my chart. I feel more comfortable starting from the 70% assumption and nudging the numbers up or down to reflect the actual position. Also, in some cases, the "average" is meaningless, since you will always be in either a fully live cube (auto-recubes) or fully dead (last roll) situation, but never in the middle.

Good info though, and I thank Phil for sharing his work.

Messages In This Thread

• New Take Point and POG Tables
  Phil Simborg -- Friday, 19 March 2010, at 2:46 p.m.
  • New Take Point and POG Tables
    Mislav Radica -- Saturday, 20 March 2010, at 8:03 p.m.
    • New Take Point and POG Tables
      Phil Simborg -- Saturday, 20 March 2010, at 9:55 p.m.
      • New Take Point and POG Tables
        rew -- Sunday, 21 March 2010, at 9:24 a.m.
        • New Take Point and POG Tables
          Chase -- Sunday, 21 March 2010, at 12:37 p.m.