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Not many options but still tricky.

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Saturday, 29 May 2010, at 11:44 p.m.

In Response To: Not many options but still tricky. (christian munk-christensen)

GG, eh? That does change things. Here are MG rollouts.
The score (after 0 games) is: White 6, Blue 5
Move number 3: Blue to play 21

White 73

Blue 131
Position ID: 3t4GAATDbhMBMA Match ID: cAkFAGAAKAAA

• Blue moves 13/10

Cube decision

2-ply cubeless equity -0.2724

0.4353 0.0662 0.0010 - 0.5647 0.1974 0.0128

Cubeful equities:

1. No double -0.3464

2. Double, pass +1.0000 +1.3464

3. Double, take -0.8922 -0.5458

Proper cube action: No double, take (28.8%)

# Ply Move Equity

• 1 R 13/10 -0.2613

0.4245 0.0488 0.0015 - 0.5755 0.1614 0.0090 -0.2710 -0.2613

0.0046 0.0028 0.0003 - 0.0046 0.0054 0.0008 0.0107 0.0230

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

135 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

2 R 13/12 6/4* -0.3724 ( -0.1111)

0.4280 0.0517 0.0012 - 0.5720 0.2455 0.0271 -0.3636 -0.3724

0.0051 0.0043 0.0004 - 0.0051 0.0056 0.0029 0.0138 0.0441

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

134 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

3 R 6/4* 5/4 -0.4322 ( -0.1708)

0.4222 0.0515 0.0011 - 0.5778 0.2614 0.0368 -0.4011 -0.4322

0.0056 0.0041 0.0004 - 0.0056 0.0070 0.0030 0.0149 0.0415

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

134 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

4 R 10/9 6/4* -0.4636 ( -0.2022)

0.4258 0.0426 0.0012 - 0.5742 0.2625 0.0367 -0.4040 -0.4636

0.0063 0.0052 0.0010 - 0.0063 0.0061 0.0027 0.0153 0.0613

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

134 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

5 R 6/4*/3 -0.5427 ( -0.2814)

0.3971 0.0507 0.0012 - 0.6029 0.2639 0.0335 -0.4513 -0.5427

0.0055 0.0033 0.0003 - 0.0055 0.0060 0.0024 0.0133 0.0394

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

134 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

6 R 10/7 -0.8066 ( -0.5452)

0.3232 0.0272 0.0008 - 0.6768 0.2051 0.0190 -0.5497 -0.8066

0.0048 0.0024 0.0002 - 0.0048 0.0057 0.0021 0.0118 0.0344

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

134 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 6, Blue 5
Move number 5: Blue to play 21

White 73

Blue 131
Position ID: 3t4GAATDbhMBMA Match ID: UQkFAGAAKAAA

• Blue moves 13/10

Cube decision

2-ply cubeless equity -0.2724

0.4353 0.0662 0.0010 - 0.5647 0.1973 0.0128

Cubeful equities:

1. No double -0.1237

2. Double, pass +1.0000 +1.1237

3. Double, take -0.8922 -0.7684

Proper cube action: No redouble, take (40.6%)

# Ply Move Equity

• 1 R 13/10 -0.1030

0.4214 0.0473 0.0015 - 0.5786 0.1599 0.0086 -0.2770 -0.1030

0.0046 0.0029 0.0003 - 0.0046 0.0056 0.0010 0.0114 0.0200

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

136 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

2 R 13/12 6/4* -0.1873 ( -0.0844)

0.4279 0.0519 0.0012 - 0.5721 0.2462 0.0274 -0.3647 -0.1873

0.0051 0.0042 0.0004 - 0.0051 0.0056 0.0028 0.0137 0.0218

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

136 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

3 R 6/4* 5/4 -0.2171 ( -0.1141)

0.4221 0.0514 0.0011 - 0.5779 0.2615 0.0370 -0.4018 -0.2171

0.0055 0.0040 0.0004 - 0.0055 0.0069 0.0030 0.0148 0.0206

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

135 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

4 R 10/9 6/4* -0.2332 ( -0.1303)

0.4256 0.0427 0.0012 - 0.5744 0.2631 0.0370 -0.4051 -0.2332

0.0062 0.0052 0.0010 - 0.0062 0.0061 0.0027 0.0152 0.0304

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

135 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 6, Blue 5
Move number 6: Blue to play 21

White 73

Blue 131
Position ID: 3t4GAATDbhMBMA Match ID: QQkFAGAAKAAA

• Blue moves 13/10

# Ply Move Equity

• 1 R 13/10 -0.4158

0.4232 0.0476 0.0018 - 0.5768 0.1598 0.0089 -0.2731 -0.4158

0.0044 0.0041 0.0005 - 0.0044 0.0044 0.0008 0.0105 0.0153

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

148 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

2 R 13/12 6/4* -0.5000 ( -0.0842)

0.4277 0.0473 0.0011 - 0.5723 0.2480 0.0240 -0.3681 -0.5000

0.0046 0.0047 0.0005 - 0.0046 0.0047 0.0020 0.0123 0.0217

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

148 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

3 R 10/9 6/4* -0.5212 ( -0.1054)

0.4235 0.0441 0.0016 - 0.5765 0.2652 0.0311 -0.4037 -0.5212

0.0057 0.0057 0.0005 - 0.0057 0.0058 0.0029 0.0139 0.0232

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

126 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

4 R 6/4* 5/4 -0.5217 ( -0.1059)

0.4249 0.0535 0.0015 - 0.5751 0.2663 0.0327 -0.3941 -0.5217

0.0056 0.0047 0.0004 - 0.0056 0.0061 0.0028 0.0150 0.0217

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

126 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 892006231 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

White	73

Blue	131
Position ID: `3t4GAATDbhMBMA` Match ID: `cAkFAGAAKAAA`

Cube decision
2-ply cubeless equity	-0.2724
	0.4353 0.0662 0.0010 - 0.5647 0.1974 0.0128
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	-0.3464
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+1.3464
3.	Double, take	-0.8922	-0.5458
Proper cube action:	No double, take (28.8%)

White	73

Blue	131
Position ID: `3t4GAATDbhMBMA` Match ID: `UQkFAGAAKAAA`

Cube decision
2-ply cubeless equity	-0.2724
	0.4353 0.0662 0.0010 - 0.5647 0.1973 0.0128
Cubeful equities:
1.	No double	-0.1237
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+1.1237
3.	Double, take	-0.8922	-0.7684
Proper cube action:	No redouble, take (40.6%)

White	73

Blue	131
Position ID: `3t4GAATDbhMBMA` Match ID: `QQkFAGAAKAAA`

Messages In This Thread

Not many options but still tricky.
christian munk-christensen -- Thursday, 27 May 2010, at 4:31 p.m.
- Not many options but still tricky.
  Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 27 May 2010, at 5:40 p.m.
  - Not many options but still tricky.
    Alejandro -- Thursday, 27 May 2010, at 8:26 p.m.
    - Not many options but still tricky.
      Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 27 May 2010, at 9:38 p.m.
      - Not many options but still tricky.
        Stick -- Thursday, 27 May 2010, at 10:03 p.m.
- Not many options but still tricky.
  Stick -- Thursday, 27 May 2010, at 8:33 p.m.
- Not many options but still tricky.
  Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 May 2010, at 8:36 p.m.
- Not many options but still tricky.
  Rich Munitz -- Thursday, 27 May 2010, at 11:15 p.m.
- Not many options but still tricky.
  christian munk-christensen -- Friday, 28 May 2010, at 5:19 p.m.
  - You didnt roll out the play I thought was slightly best
    neilkaz -- Friday, 28 May 2010, at 7:22 p.m.
    - Long XG 3 ply RO
      neilkaz -- Friday, 28 May 2010, at 11:14 p.m.
      - Long XG 3 ply RO
        christian munk-christensen -- Saturday, 29 May 2010, at 9:14 a.m.
- Not many options but still tricky.
  Daniel Murphy -- Saturday, 29 May 2010, at 11:44 p.m.

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