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Locking up the win - 2nd pos RO and new pos

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 9:13 p.m.

In Response To: Locking up the win - RO and new position (Daniel Murphy)

DMP. Blue to play 5-5
Move number 8: Blue to play 55

White 93

Blue 104
Position ID: trMbAAjO9gwAAw Match ID: cIk2AAAAAAAA

It would have been pleasantly simple if 6/3*(2) 6/1(1) was best here. Then we could say that leaving ourselves 9/36 blocking rolls shouldn't stop us from closing our board, instead of running or half-running. But in this altered position 20/15(2) 8/3*2(2) is best.

# Ply Move Equity

• 1 R 20/15(2) 8/3*(2) +0.8096

0.9048 0.2301 0.0006 - 0.0952 0.0044 0.0001 +0.8096 +0.8096

0.0014 0.0167 0.0002 - 0.0014 0.0013 0.0000 0.0028 0.0028

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

401 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891803347 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

2 R 8/3*(2) 6/1(2) +0.7755 ( -0.0341)

0.8878 0.3167 0.0004 - 0.1122 0.0109 0.0027 +0.7755 +0.7755

0.0013 0.0189 0.0003 - 0.0013 0.0042 0.0024 0.0027 0.0027

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

401 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891803347 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

3 R 20/10 8/3*(2) +0.7093 ( -0.1004)

0.8546 0.2548 0.0032 - 0.1454 0.0219 0.0003 +0.7093 +0.7093

0.0019 0.0166 0.0012 - 0.0019 0.0036 0.0001 0.0037 0.0037

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

401 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891803347 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

4 R 20/15 8/3*(2) 6/1 +0.5273 ( -0.2824)

0.7636 0.2799 0.0041 - 0.2364 0.1039 0.0046 +0.5273 +0.5273

0.0022 0.0163 0.0016 - 0.0022 0.0081 0.0028 0.0044 0.0044

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

401 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891803347 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

5 R 20/10(2) +0.3714 ( -0.4382)

0.6857 0.0429 0.0005 - 0.3143 0.0063 0.0000 +0.3714 +0.3714

0.0013 0.0072 0.0002 - 0.0013 0.0030 0.0000 0.0025 0.0025

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

401 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891803347 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Below we move Blue's spare from the 2 point to the 4 point. Now Blue can handled 2-1 or 1-1 once and has only 6 awful numbers.
DMP. Blue to play 5-5.
White 93

Blue 107
Position ID: trMbAAhm9wwAAw Match ID: cIk2AAAAAAAA

# Ply Move Equity

• 1 R 8/3*(2) 6/1(2) +0.8654

0.9327 0.3395 0.0004 - 0.0673 0.0121 0.0000 +0.8654 +0.8654

0.0027 0.0395 0.0002 - 0.0027 0.0044 0.0005 0.0055 0.0055

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

85 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891751188 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

2 R 20/15(2) 8/3*(2) +0.7995 ( -0.0659)

0.8998 0.2255 0.0011 - 0.1002 0.0021 0.0000 +0.7995 +0.7995

0.0031 0.0395 0.0005 - 0.0031 0.0019 0.0001 0.0062 0.0062

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

84 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891751188 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Below the spare is on the 3 point. Blue can handle 2-1 and has 7 bad numbers.
DMP. Blue to play 5-5.
White 93

Blue 106
Position ID: trMbAAjm9gwAAw Match ID: cIk2AAAAAAAA

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.025)

# Ply Move Equity

1 R 8/3*(2) 6/1(2) +0.8214

0.9107 0.3597 0.0002 - 0.0893 0.0158 0.0001 +0.8214 +0.8214

0.0026 0.0484 0.0001 - 0.0026 0.0071 0.0003 0.0051 0.0051

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

91 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891751188 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

• 2 R 20/15(2) 8/3*(2) +0.7960 ( -0.0255)

0.8980 0.2058 0.0051 - 0.1020 0.0026 0.0001 +0.7960 +0.7960

0.0028 0.0272 0.0041 - 0.0028 0.0005 0.0000 0.0056 0.0056

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

91 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 891751188 and quasi-random dice

Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

New positions.
(1) Below Blue can handle 2-1 (in the first position) but 4-4 is a board breaker in both.
DMP. Blue to play 5-5.
White 108

Blue 106
Position ID: ttkGAwjm9gwAAw Match ID: cIk2AAAAAAAA

DMP. Blue to play 5.5
White 133

Blue 104
Position ID: LLvBAwjO9gwAAw Match ID: cIk2AAAAAAAA

White	93

Blue	104
Position ID: `trMbAAjO9gwAAw` Match ID: `cIk2AAAAAAAA`

White	93

Blue	107
Position ID: `trMbAAhm9wwAAw` Match ID: `cIk2AAAAAAAA`

White	93

Blue	106
Position ID: `trMbAAjm9gwAAw` Match ID: `cIk2AAAAAAAA`

White	108

Blue	106
Position ID: `ttkGAwjm9gwAAw` Match ID: `cIk2AAAAAAAA`

White	133

Blue	104
Position ID: `LLvBAwjO9gwAAw` Match ID: `cIk2AAAAAAAA`

Messages In This Thread

Locking up the win
Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 1:59 a.m.
- Locking up the win
  Leonardo Jerkovic -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 2:41 a.m.
- Locking up the win
  John O'Hagan -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 2:45 a.m.
  - Locking up the win
    garyo -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 3:09 a.m.
- Fascinating
  lenny -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 7:23 a.m.
  - Fascinating
    christian munk-christensen -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 8:34 p.m.
- Locking up the win
  Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 5:58 p.m.
- Locking up the win
  Dave -- Wednesday, 2 June 2010, at 10:35 p.m.
- Locking up the win - RO and new position
  Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 6:58 a.m.
  - Locking up the win - RO and new position
    Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 7:10 a.m.
  - new position
    Klaus Evers -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 8:25 a.m.
  - Locking up the win - RO and new position
    Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 3:12 p.m.
  - Locking up the win - 2nd pos RO and new pos
    Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 9:13 p.m.
    - Locking up the win - 2nd pos RO and new pos
      Klaus Evers -- Thursday, 3 June 2010, at 10:28 p.m.
    - Locking up the win - 2nd pos RO and new pos
      Casper van der Tak -- Friday, 4 June 2010, at 7:38 a.m.
    - Locking up the win - last Rollouts
      Daniel Murphy -- Saturday, 5 June 2010, at 1:16 a.m.
      - Locking up the win - last Rollouts
        Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 5 June 2010, at 3:33 a.m.
      - Thanks
        Klaus Evers -- Saturday, 5 June 2010, at 9:31 p.m.

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