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Which side would you prefer in prop position?

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 6:33 p.m.

In Response To: Which side would you prefer in prop position? (Timothy Chow)

I realize that my thinking here is likely contrary to the mainstream, but I disagree and think that people in general overestimate the importance. Seriously, when is the last time that you saw a position like this in serious world class tourney play?

	is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 34 Money session Jacoby Beaver pip: 202 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=a-------BBBB-AA-AA---AAAi-:1:1:1:65:0:0:3:0:10
to play 65

1.	4 ply	23/12	eq: +0.457
	Player: Opponent: 66.96% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) 33.04% (G:11.09% B:0.43%)
2.	4 ply	23/18 21/15	eq: +0.446 (-0.012)
	Player: Opponent: 67.23% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) 32.77% (G:13.04% B:0.29%)
3.	4 ply	21/15 17/12	eq: +0.378 (-0.080)
	Player: Opponent: 64.29% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) 35.71% (G:12.47% B:0.58%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 1.14

I reckon just about never. That being said, XG from my experience is at least as good as other bots in normal commonly occuring backgame situations..ie with decent timing and a decent board, however, it could likely gain from improvement in seriously busted backgames (as GNU most certainly needs improvement there).

Messages In This Thread

• Which side would you prefer in prop position?
  Seth -- Monday, 14 June 2010, at 11:03 p.m.
  • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
    Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 1:01 a.m.
    • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
      Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 2:04 a.m.
      • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
        Seth -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 2:42 a.m.
        • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
          Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 2:50 a.m.
          • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
            Seth -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 2:55 a.m.
            • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
              Stick -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 2:59 a.m.
              • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                Seth -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:46 a.m.
                • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                  Stick -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:48 a.m.
                  • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                    Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 4:04 a.m.
                  • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                    Seth -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 11:53 a.m.
            • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
              eXtreme Gammon -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:29 a.m.
              • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                neilkaz -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:55 a.m.
                • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                  Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:58 a.m.
                • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                  eXtreme Gammon -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 4:05 a.m.
                  • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 4:31 p.m.
                    • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                      Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 4:57 p.m.
                      • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 6:33 p.m.
                      • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                        Stick -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 6:35 p.m.
                        • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                          Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 6:52 p.m.
                          • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                            Stick -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 6:59 p.m.
                            • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                              Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 9:52 p.m.
                              • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                                Stick -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 9:57 p.m.
                                • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                                  Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 10:04 p.m.
                                  • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                                    Stick -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 10:56 p.m.
                                    • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
                                      bob koca -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 11:26 p.m.
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                                        Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 11:39 p.m.
            • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
              Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:35 a.m.
      • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
        Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 3:44 a.m.
  • prime oozing
    lenny -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 5:12 a.m.
    • prime oozing
      Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 6:10 a.m.
  • Which side would you prefer in prop position?
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 11:59 a.m.
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      Seth -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 11:39 p.m.
      • MCG-Which side?
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 15 June 2010, at 11:48 p.m.