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Rules question to try to answer what to do OTB

Posted By: Robert Maier
Date: Thursday, 15 July 2010, at 5:36 a.m.

In Response To: Rules question to try to answer what to do OTB (Gregg Cattanach)

I should have read your post first I guess rather than repeating what you said.

As far as dealing with the situation where a player passes a cube and that pass would give his opponent enough points to win the match, I turn for solace to the WBA rules.

#4.4.3 ACCEPTING/PASSING A DOUBLE. edited...... After a pass the scoreboard is updated and the next game is started. .....edited

so I would argue that if a pass would result in there being no next game it must be canceled. Of course if you are going to consult the WBA rules you have to read another rule the way you want.

4.5 Completion

All games and matches must be played to the end, unless brought to an end by the pass of a double or a player running out of time, if the match is played using a game clock. A player with no contact can accept the loss of a single point, a gammon or backgammon, though. Except for this situation the players are not allowed to agree on the outcome of points, of a game or a match. All matches must be played to the appointed number of points. Violation of this rule may result in disqualification of one or both players. In special cases the players involved may be temporarily barred from future tournaments.

So you sort of have to decide that only games are being ended by the pass of a double and not matches. You could also argue with more or less of a straight face that "the players are not allowed to agree on the outcome of.....a match" is being violated if someone is allowed to pass the match away.

Good enough for me anyway.

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