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Use 3 ply and "Rollout for double/no double"

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Friday, 17 September 2010, at 3:13 a.m.

In Response To: Rollout (Stick)

All you need here is 3 ply (off course 4 ply is better but I don't think you need all that time here and noting this position is usually drastically different next roll with regard to cube action and often a clear cube decision) and "rollout for double no double" box checked.

That will RO each play and with respect to whether the cube goes D/T or ND here. I did a quick 1296 and yes, cubing after the hit is correct and cubing after 12/8 wrong per RO. But the RO "4 D ND" will determine that and when comparing play vs play, report back with the best equity.

You may need 12960 or 25920 games here. I won't do that since my computers are all busy working towards a greater purpose... ie training XG 2 with the goal that we will all have an even stronger bot to use. (I'm working under a NDA so that is all I will say ATM).

.. neilkaz ..

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    adambulldog -- Wednesday, 15 September 2010, at 12:28 p.m.
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    Stick -- Friday, 17 September 2010, at 2:42 a.m.
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      Stick -- Friday, 17 September 2010, at 2:51 a.m.
      • Use 3 ply and "Rollout for double/no double"
        neilkaz -- Friday, 17 September 2010, at 3:13 a.m.
        • Use 3 ply and "Rollout for double/no double"
          phil simborg -- Friday, 17 September 2010, at 4:37 p.m.
          • Use 3 ply and "Rollout for double/no double"
            Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 18 September 2010, at 12:09 a.m.
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      Stanley E. Richards -- Friday, 17 September 2010, at 11:23 p.m.