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In defense of single trial rollouts

Posted By: Tom Keith
Date: Wednesday, 20 October 2010, at 11:17 p.m.

In Response To: In defense of single trial rollouts (Bob Koca)

Couldn't the .03 equity come from erors made from the players and not from the luck evaluations being off?

That's true, you could have errors in play. I was focusing on reducing random error.

As Maik deduced, I use single trial rollouts like this for bot training. You can generate millions of rolled out positions in very little time. As long as the equities generated are "pretty good" they work well for training bots because they are not biased. (During training, the neural net converges on the correct average value.)

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• Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
  Stick -- Friday, 15 October 2010, at 10:21 p.m.
  • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
    Timothy Chow -- Friday, 15 October 2010, at 11:08 p.m.
    • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
      Tom Keith -- Saturday, 16 October 2010, at 1:31 p.m.
  • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
    Daniel Murphy -- Saturday, 16 October 2010, at 2:22 a.m.
    • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
      Stick -- Saturday, 16 October 2010, at 5:32 a.m.
      • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
        Daniel Murphy -- Saturday, 16 October 2010, at 6:34 p.m.
        • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
          Neil Robins -- Sunday, 17 October 2010, at 5:32 p.m.
          • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
            Stick -- Sunday, 17 October 2010, at 6:19 p.m.
            • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
              eXtreme Gammon -- Sunday, 17 October 2010, at 7:27 p.m.
              • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
                Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 20 October 2010, at 5:55 p.m.
    • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
      Timothy Chow -- Sunday, 17 October 2010, at 4:53 p.m.
      • In defense of single trial rollouts
        Tom Keith -- Sunday, 17 October 2010, at 7:46 p.m.
        • In defense of single trial rollouts
          Maik Stiebler -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 11:42 a.m.
          • In defense of single trial rollouts
            Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 2:54 p.m.
            • In defense of single trial rollouts
              Maik Stiebler -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 3:56 p.m.
            • In defense of single trial rollouts
              Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 7:18 p.m.
              • In defense of single trial rollouts
                Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 8:42 p.m.
              • In defense of single trial rollouts
                Tom Keith -- Wednesday, 20 October 2010, at 11:17 p.m.
    • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
      Tom Keith -- Sunday, 17 October 2010, at 8:19 p.m.
  • OT Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
    svilo -- Saturday, 16 October 2010, at 8:46 a.m.
  • Minimum # of Trials and Confidence
    higonefive -- Saturday, 16 October 2010, at 11:25 a.m.
  • 324 is basically my minimum.
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 4:50 p.m.