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How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*

Posted By: Matt Ryder
Date: Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 4:51 a.m.

In Response To: How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3* (Nack Ballard)

Greetings and happy new year!

After a lengthy hiatus, I've decided to actively study backgammon in a committed sort of way during 2011. So I'll stop lurking and weigh in on this forum from time to time. (It's good to be back!)

The next update (on which I'm hard at work) will for sure be enough for someone to program a computer to assign the correct character to (a) any play that is likely to arise in human play, probably enough for (b) any non-triple-whopper, and quite possibly enough for (c) any legal play.

This is fantastic news! As it happens, I'm programming a set of backgammon libraries in my spare time, and such a description would allow me to augment them with a nactation module. Right now, I'm able to input an XGID string or base 64 GnuBGID string, supplement this with a move in "standard" notation, and my program displays the revised position. I'd dearly love to be able to input a starting XGID, supplement this with a nactation move sequence, and have the code figure out an updated position from that. (With a bit of computer assistance, we could share entire matches in the subject line of a post!)

This is all predicated on a program being able to distinguish lower-case, italics, underlined and emboldened letters, but it is without tapping into the option of different color typefaces, in case that's an option.

A program can certainly distinguish the different font weights/typefaces, but to be honest it's not really that convenient to store such typographical extravagances in a SQL database. However, I can make a plan. (The database could store the nactation base symbol and associated "family" in separate fields, for example.)

...but feel free to test (b) by asking for the Nactation of as strange a play as you can contrive that is still not a reprehensively terrible move.

This isn't particularly strange or contrived, but what's the appropriate nactation for 11 played 24/23, 6/5(3) ??

Some variant of e?

Matt

Messages In This Thread

• How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
  Philip Cherrington -- Monday, 3 January 2011, at 4:04 p.m.
  • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
    Timothy Chow -- Monday, 3 January 2011, at 5:16 p.m.
    • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
      Nack Ballard -- Monday, 3 January 2011, at 7:51 p.m.
      • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
        Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 12:03 a.m.
        • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
          Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 1:42 a.m.
          • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
            Matt Ryder -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 4:51 a.m.
            • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
              Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 6:15 a.m.
              • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
                Matt Ryder -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 8:21 p.m.
                • Assumption in Nactation
                  Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 11:41 p.m.
                  • Assumption in Nactation
                    Matt Ryder -- Thursday, 6 January 2011, at 6:06 a.m.
                    • Assumption in Nactation
                      Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 6 January 2011, at 8:47 a.m.
                • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
                  Stick -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 11:20 a.m.
                  • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
                    Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 3:53 p.m.
                    • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
                      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 9:22 p.m.
              • Nactating irregular doublets
                Matt Ryder -- Sunday, 9 January 2011, at 7:41 a.m.
                • Nactating irregular doublets
                  Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 9 January 2011, at 6:43 p.m.
                • Nactating irregular doublets
                  Nack Ballard -- Monday, 10 January 2011, at 4:49 a.m.
                  • Thanks Nack! *NM*
                    Matt Ryder -- Tuesday, 11 January 2011, at 3:57 a.m.
          • Testing the limits of nactation
            Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 3:15 p.m.
            • Testing the limits of nactation
              Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 4:20 p.m.
              • Testing the limits of nactation/ STICK question on search
                Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 7:24 p.m.
                • Most number of legal plays?
                  Tom Keith -- Thursday, 6 January 2011, at 2:41 p.m.
                  • Most number of legal plays?
                    Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 6 January 2011, at 2:49 p.m.
                  • Most number of legal plays?
                    eXtreme Gammon -- Thursday, 6 January 2011, at 3:09 p.m.
            • Testing the limits of nactation
              Matt Ryder -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 7:39 p.m.
              • Testing the limits of nactation
                Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 1:37 a.m.
                • Testing the limits of nactation
                  Matt Ryder -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 6:25 a.m.
                  • Testing the limits of nactation
                    Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 3:47 p.m.
                    • Testing the limits of nactation
                      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 10:53 p.m.
                    • Testing the limits of nactation
                      Matt Ryder -- Thursday, 6 January 2011, at 5:30 a.m.
            • Testing the limits of Nactation
              Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 4 January 2011, at 9:42 p.m.
            • Testing the limits of nactation
              Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 5 January 2011, at 7:49 a.m.
  • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
    Nack Ballard -- Monday, 3 January 2011, at 5:32 p.m.
    • How to nactate 52S-54-g 13/9 8/3*
      Nack Ballard -- Monday, 3 January 2011, at 7:34 p.m.
  • Why use Nactation?
    leobueno -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 4:49 p.m.
    • Why use Nactation?
      Timothy Chow -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 5:24 p.m.
    • Why use Nactation?
      Rich Munitz -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 5:48 p.m.
    • Why use Nactation?
      Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 5:50 p.m.
      • Why use Nactation?
        Art Grater -- Friday, 21 January 2011, at 7:56 p.m.
        • Why use Nactation?
          Nack Ballard -- Friday, 21 January 2011, at 9:07 p.m.
    • Why use Nactation?
      Tom Keith -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 6:46 p.m.
    • Why use Nactation? / backgammon informator
      higonefive -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 7:24 p.m.
    • Why use Nactation?
      Frank Berger -- Monday, 17 January 2011, at 9:42 p.m.