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Always & Forever

Posted By: Stick
Date: Friday, 14 January 2011, at 7:47 p.m.

In Response To: OLM Fr 01/14/11 (neilkaz)

I'm sure at some point you change from playing S to D with an opening 32. For me I would go ahead and make that change here trailing 2-0 to 15. FWIW below are a few opening 32 rollouts at various scores. I will be sending you these and many others sometime in the near future. The -4 -4 rollout should have been extended but for some reason is only 5k. Everything else is either to significance or 46k. I have rollouts for all the other scores from -5 -5 in but am only posting the interesting ones.

5 away 5 away

	is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:0:0:0:5:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.005
	Player: Opponent: 50.19% (G:13.88% B:0.80%) 49.81% (G:13.77% B:0.75%) Conf: ± 0.004 (+0.001...+0.009) Duration: 21 hours 29 minutes
2.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.002 (-0.003)
	Player: Opponent: 49.88% (G:15.23% B:0.85%) 50.12% (G:14.45% B:0.92%) Conf: ± 0.004 (-0.002...+0.006) Duration: 19 hours 44 minutes
1 46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 74138057 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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5 away 4 away

	is Player 2 score: 1 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:32:0:1:0:5:10
to play 32

1.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: -0.039
	Player: Opponent: 49.92% (G:15.12% B:0.81%) 50.08% (G:14.55% B:1.57%) Conf: ± 0.004 (-0.043...-0.035) Duration: 15 hours 08 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: -0.043 (-0.004)
	Player: Opponent: 50.29% (G:13.71% B:0.78%) 49.71% (G:13.89% B:1.24%) Conf: ± 0.004 (-0.047...-0.039) Duration: 16 hours 19 minutes
1 46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 74138057 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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5 away 3 away

	is Player 2 score: 2 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:0:2:0:5:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.099
	Player: Opponent: 50.15% (G:14.95% B:0.70%) 49.85% (G:14.71% B:2.15%) Conf: ± 0.005 (+0.094...+0.104) Duration: 11 hours 32 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.090 (-0.009)
	Player: Opponent: 50.55% (G:13.52% B:0.62%) 49.45% (G:14.27% B:1.84%) Conf: ± 0.004 (+0.086...+0.094) Duration: 12 hours 23 minutes
1 31104 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 74138057 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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5 away 2 away

	is Player 2 score: 3 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:0:3:0:5:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.159
	Player: Opponent: 50.13% (G:15.12% B:0.61%) 49.87% (G:16.19% B:2.38%) Conf: ± 0.009 (+0.150...+0.168) Duration: 4 hours 54 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.138 (-0.022)
	Player: Opponent: 50.60% (G:13.63% B:0.57%) 49.40% (G:15.44% B:1.93%) Conf: ± 0.008 (+0.130...+0.146) Duration: 5 hours 14 minutes
1 7776 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 21140344 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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5 away 1 away

	is Player 2 score: 4 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:0:4:0:5:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.212
	Player: Opponent: 50.28% (G:15.40% B:0.50%) 49.72% (G:17.88% B:2.81%) Conf: ± 0.005 (+0.207...+0.217) Duration: 4 hours 31 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.196 (-0.016)
	Player: Opponent: 50.60% (G:13.89% B:0.39%) 49.40% (G:16.38% B:2.02%) Conf: ± 0.005 (+0.191...+0.201) Duration: 4 hours 46 minutes
1 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 21140344 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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4 away 5 away

	is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 1 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:32:1:0:0:5:10
to play 32

1.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.050
	Player: Opponent: 50.12% (G:14.03% B:1.46%) 49.88% (G:13.68% B:0.73%) Conf: ± 0.004 (+0.046...+0.054) Duration: 19 hours 58 minutes
2.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.050
	Player: Opponent: 49.75% (G:15.51% B:1.45%) 50.25% (G:14.33% B:0.95%) Conf: ± 0.005 (+0.045...+0.055) Duration: 18 hours 27 minutes
1 46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 21140344 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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4 away 4 away

	is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 167 4 point match pip: 167 score: 0 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:0:0:0:4:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.002
	Player: Opponent: 49.75% (G:15.35% B:1.56%) 50.25% (G:14.32% B:1.54%) Conf: ± 0.015 (-0.013...+0.017) Duration: 1 hour 59 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: -0.006 (-0.008)
	Player: Opponent: 50.11% (G:14.11% B:1.50%) 49.89% (G:13.92% B:1.24%) Conf: ± 0.015 (-0.021...+0.009) Duration: 2 hours 10 minutes
1 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: Random Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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4 away 3 away

	is Player 2 score: 2 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 1 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:1:2:0:5:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.157
	Player: Opponent: 50.14% (G:15.06% B:1.85%) 49.86% (G:15.03% B:1.61%) Conf: ± 0.005 (+0.152...+0.162) Duration: 11 hours 46 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.139 (-0.018)
	Player: Opponent: 50.60% (G:13.51% B:1.73%) 49.40% (G:14.39% B:1.28%) Conf: ± 0.005 (+0.134...+0.144) Duration: 12 hours 34 minutes
1 46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 74138057 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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4 away 1 away

	is Player 2 score: 4 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 1 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:1:4:0:5:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	13/8	eq: +0.870
	Player: Opponent: 49.17% (G:13.54% B:1.74%) 50.83% (G:16.38% B:1.98%) Conf: ± 0.003 (+0.867...+0.873) Duration: 20 hours 20 minutes
2.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.869 (-0.001)
	Player: Opponent: 49.90% (G:14.69% B:1.30%) 50.10% (G:15.95% B:1.74%) Conf: ± 0.002 (+0.867...+0.871) Duration: 12 hours 17 minutes
3.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.868 (-0.002)
	Player: Opponent: 50.18% (G:13.73% B:1.18%) 49.82% (G:15.31% B:1.39%) Conf: ± 0.002 (+0.866...+0.870) Duration: 11 hours 11 minutes
1 46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 74138057 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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3 away 3 away

	is Player 2 score: 2 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 2 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:2:2:0:5:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.007
	Player: Opponent: 49.93% (G:15.72% B:1.54%) 50.07% (G:14.76% B:1.67%) Conf: ± 0.004 (+0.003...+0.011) Duration: 16 hours 56 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.005 (-0.002)
	Player: Opponent: 50.20% (G:14.30% B:1.47%) 49.80% (G:14.13% B:1.30%) Conf: ± 0.004 (+0.001...+0.009) Duration: 18 hours 15 minutes
1 46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 74138057 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

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3 away 2 away

	is Player 2 score: 3 pip: 167 5 point match pip: 167 score: 2 is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---eE---c-e----B-:0:0:1:23:2:3:0:5:10
to play 23

1.	Rollout1	13/11 13/10	eq: +0.272
	Player: Opponent: 50.05% (G:15.26% B:2.45%) 49.95% (G:16.06% B:2.26%) Conf: ± 0.007 (+0.265...+0.279) Duration: 6 hours 50 minutes
2.	Rollout1	24/21 13/11	eq: +0.255 (-0.017)
	Player: Opponent: 50.37% (G:13.67% B:2.27%) 49.63% (G:15.23% B:1.79%) Conf: ± 0.007 (+0.248...+0.262) Duration: 7 hours 13 minutes
1 15552 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 21140344 Moves and cube decisions: 3 ply

Messages In This Thread

• OLM Fr 01/14/11
  Jason Lee -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 5:53 p.m.
  • OLM Fr 01/14/11
    neilkaz -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 6:38 p.m.
    • Always & Forever
      Stick -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 7:47 p.m.
      • Always & Forever
        neilkaz -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 8:28 p.m.
        • Always & Forever
          Stick -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 8:43 p.m.
          • RO at -10-7 from my archives
            neilkaz -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 8:51 p.m.
            • RO at -10-7 from my archives
              Stick -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 9:01 p.m.
              • Extension to 46k will finish in 48 hrs *NM*
                neilkaz -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 9:13 p.m.
      • -4 pC?
        Chuck Bower -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 10:48 p.m.
        • -4 pC?
          David Rockwell -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 1:14 a.m.
          • -4 pC?
            Nack Ballard -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 1:50 a.m.
      • 4a4a needs extending
        neilkaz -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 3:39 a.m.
        • Some extending
          Stick -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 4:07 a.m.
          • Some extending - 46k
            Stick -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 2:22 p.m.
            • Some extending - 46k
              Nack Ballard -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 5:01 p.m.
              • Some extending - 46k
                Rich Munitz -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 6:22 p.m.
  • OLM Fr 01/14/11
    Havard Raddum -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 8:39 p.m.
  • OLM Fr 01/14/11
    Fabrice Liardet -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 8:54 p.m.
  • OLM Fr 01/14/11
    Casper van der Tak -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 10:01 p.m.
  • OLM Fr 01/14/11
    Seth -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 10:28 p.m.
  • OLM Fr 01/14/11
    Chuck Bower -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 10:38 p.m.
  • 4 ply RO of opening 32 for reference
    neilkaz -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 11:26 p.m.
    • 3 ply RO of opening 32 for reference
      Stick -- Friday, 14 January 2011, at 11:29 p.m.
      • Opening 32 data
        Nack Ballard -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 2:36 a.m.
        • Opening 32 data
          neilkaz -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 3:36 a.m.
          • Opening 32 started... Noted, Thx *NM*
            Nack Ballard -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 5:10 p.m.
            • Opening 32 not started yet as that comp is still doing 64
              neilkaz -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 9:29 p.m.
              • Opening 32 not started yet as that comp is still doing 64
                Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 4:37 a.m.
              • Opening 32 not started yet as that comp is still doing 64
                Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 4:43 a.m.
                • Opening 32 not started yet as that comp is still doing 64
                  neilkaz -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 4:53 a.m.
                  • Opening 32 not started yet as that comp is still doing 64
                    Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 16 January 2011, at 7:03 a.m.
        • Opening 32 data — GnuBg rollouts for 32-g explained
          Taper_Mike -- Saturday, 21 January 2012, at 7:14 a.m.
    • 46k RO of 32 at -10-7
      neilkaz -- Monday, 17 January 2011, at 3:23 a.m.
  • OLM Fr 01/14/11
    misja -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 1:22 p.m.
  • OLM Fr 01/14/11
    Jason Lee -- Saturday, 15 January 2011, at 3:02 p.m.