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Holland Rule/Tournaments

Posted By: Michael Petch
Date: Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 5:42 a.m.

In Response To: Bring Back the Holland Rule (Jake Jacobs)

Jake said: "The Holland Rule and the Crawford Rule, and the Jacoby Rule were all invented by hustlers looking for an edge over weaker players"

Thanks, it's a good point. One observation that I'd like to make that I have no empirical data for, but just based on my perception of ER's over the years - is that among the socially competitive players (ie. they may play competitively, and not for money) the average ER of this class of player is dropping at a faster rate than the average PR of all the Experts/WC players (open division). There is only so far an Expert/WC player can go - there is a limit.

I could see the implementation of the Holland rule as a new edge (not sure how much it would be, but probably not much overall) for the high end players to get over the rest of the field.

For this reason, if someone decided to accept (I hope they don't) the Holland rule, I would want the same thing that is done with Crawford - force all the divisions (in live events) to use it. If you play with Crawford you play with Holland. The more that the less experienced divisions play with the rule, the better ready they will be when they are forced/decide to move up in divisions.

Messages In This Thread

• Bring Back the Holland Rule
  Phil Simborg -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 9:32 p.m.
  • Bring Back the Holland Rule
    Art Grater -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 10:07 p.m.
  • No thanks! *NM*
    Neil Robins -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 10:09 p.m.
  • Bring Back the Holland Rule
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 10:18 p.m.
    • Bring Back the Holland Rule
      higonefive -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 11:34 p.m.
    • Bring Back the Holland Rule
      Fabrice Liardet -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 11:55 p.m.
    • Bring Back the Holland Rule
      joe freedman -- Wednesday, 2 February 2011, at 12:22 a.m.
  • Bring Back the Holland Rule
    christian munk-christensen -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 10:26 p.m.
  • Bring Back the Holland Rule
    Casper van der Tak -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 10:27 p.m.
  • Bring Back the Holland Rule
    David Rockwell -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 10:54 p.m.
  • Are you sure that's the rule?
    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 11:49 p.m.
  • Bring Back the Holland Rule
    Seth -- Monday, 31 January 2011, at 11:57 p.m.
  • 1994 R.G.B thread on Holland Rule
    Michael Petch -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 12:10 a.m.
  • 1000 times NO
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 12:57 a.m.
    • 1000 times NO +1000 *NM*
      joe freedman -- Wednesday, 2 February 2011, at 12:13 a.m.
  • No thanks *NM*
    Chiva Tafazzoli -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 1:46 a.m.
  • Bring Back the Holland Rule
    Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 2:31 a.m.
    • Bring Back the Holland Rule
      Michael Petch -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 2:45 a.m.
      • Bring Back the Holland Rule
        Jake Jacobs -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 4:44 a.m.
        • Holland Rule/Tournaments
          Michael Petch -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 5:42 a.m.
        • Bring Back the Holland Rule
          neilkaz -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 4:45 p.m.
        • Bring Back the Holland Rule +1 *NM*
          joe freedman -- Wednesday, 2 February 2011, at 12:11 a.m.
  • Bring Back the Holland Rule
    lenny -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 5:57 a.m.
  • please don't *NM*
    mtuhtan -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 8:01 a.m.
  • or scrap the Crawford Rule...
    Stein Kulseth -- Tuesday, 1 February 2011, at 9:48 a.m.
    • or scrap the Crawford Rule...
      Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 2 February 2011, at 6:31 p.m.
  • Do NOT Bring Back the Holland Rule
    joe freedman -- Wednesday, 2 February 2011, at 12:18 a.m.