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KIbitzers should STFU unless asked or appointed as monitor

Posted By: Henrik Bukkjaer
Date: Friday, 25 February 2011, at 10:07 a.m.

In Response To: KIbitzers should STFU unless asked or appointed as monitor (Daniel Murphy)

I'm also for the strict rule not allowing kibitzers to interfere with a match, if (they think) they see an illegal move.

Apart from the players themselves, tournament directors (or tournament staff, which is a term used at some of the largest tournaments) and monitors are the only ones who should be allowed to point out illegal plays.

Kibitzers are free to direct a TDs attention to a problem in a match.

Furthermore, if you play "legal moves" and you have a person recording the match, that person should be allowed to call illegal moves. I consider this person recording the match sort of a monitor, even though he/she is not necessarily appointed by the TD, but might be appointed by the players themselves.

In DBgF we have no problem barring kibitzers from watching a match. Or even through them out of the tournament area. I don't really get you Stick, when you say that you cannot be made not kibitz a match? But I guess it's because the matches in US is not (yet) sanctioned by one huge governing body, and they might even be played in public accessible areas? In the DBgF we just ask the kibitzers to leave (it happens very rarely though), but it's very easy since in 99% of the situations, those kibitzers are members of the DBgF, or attending a DBgF tournament at the time, from which they don't want to be kicked out of. At the end of it, you could always have the owner of the premises ask the person to leave the area....

Who can then ask a kibitzer to leave? As Mary said, in the old days, any player could. But when we did the major rule change we stated the TD could, and the players could request the TD to ask specific kibitzers to leave. We also changed similar stuff for match recording, etc. basically we wouldn't put ourselves in a situation, where a player could overrule a TD in the final stages of a big tournament, and eg. insist that the final were not videotaped and commented for an audience, etc.

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