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Interesting & Easy?

Posted By: leobueno
Date: Wednesday, 2 March 2011, at 12:34 a.m.

In Response To: Interesting & Easy? (Stick)

For what it's worth, see below the GNUbg 4-ply analysis and the 0-ply rollout, which differs from the 2-ply rollout that Claude did.

Does this mean that this is a position that may merit deeper rollouts?

The score (after 0 games) is: GammonBot 0, You 0

Move number 4: You to play 62

GammonBot	134
You	132
Position ID: 8M4xAyDMbsEDIA Match ID: cAkLAAAAAAAA

• You moves 13/11 13/7

Cube decision
3-ply cubeless equity		+0.283
	60.6 17.8 0.4 - 39.4 10.7 0.3
Cubeful equities:
	3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
1.	No double	+0.414
2.	Double, pass	+1.000	+0.586
3.	Double, take	+0.296	-0.118
Proper cube action:		No double, take (16.8%)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	4	13/11 13/7	+0.296
			57.7 17.1 0.5 - 42.3 12.1 0.4
			4-ply cubeful prune
	2	4	13/5	+0.284 ( -0.012)
			56.7 17.4 0.5 - 43.3 11.3 0.3
			4-ply cubeful prune
	3	4	13/7 8/6	+0.272 ( -0.024)
			56.7 16.4 0.4 - 43.3 10.2 0.3
			4-ply cubeful prune
	4	4	24/16	+0.269 ( -0.028)
			58.0 13.9 0.4 - 42.0 11.6 0.3
			4-ply cubeful prune
	5	1	24/22 13/7	+0.199 ( -0.097)
			55.6 15.5 0.4 - 44.4 12.6 0.3
			1-ply cubeful prune
	6	1	24/18 13/11	+0.177 ( -0.119)
			55.7 14.3 0.5 - 44.3 13.5 0.5
			1-ply cubeful prune

The score (after 0 games) is: GammonBot 0, You 0

Move number 4: You to play 62

GammonBot	134
You	132
Position ID: 8M4xAyDMbsEDIA Match ID: cAkLAAAAAAAA

• You moves 13/11 13/7

Cube decision
3-ply cubeless equity		+0.283
	60.6 17.8 0.4 - 39.4 10.7 0.3
Cubeful equities:
	3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
1.	No double	+0.414
2.	Double, pass	+1.000	+0.586
3.	Double, take	+0.296	-0.118
Proper cube action:		No double, take (16.8%)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	13/11 13/7	+0.273
			57.0 16.4 0.6 - 43.0 11.5 0.4 +0.192 +0.273 0.1 0.1 0.0 - 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.002 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			7776 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 877423860 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
	2	R	24/16	+0.264 ( -0.009)
			57.7 13.0 0.5 - 42.3 11.2 0.3 +0.174 +0.264 0.1 0.1 0.0 - 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.002 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			7776 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 877423860 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
	3	R	13/5	+0.259 ( -0.014)
			56.2 16.3 0.5 - 43.8 10.5 0.3 +0.182 +0.259 0.1 0.1 0.0 - 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.002 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			7776 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 877423860 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
	4	R	13/7 8/6	+0.248 ( -0.025)
			56.0 15.6 0.5 - 44.0 9.5 0.3 +0.183 +0.248 0.1 0.1 0.0 - 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.002 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			7777 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 877423860 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
			Cube: 0-ply cubeful [expert]
	5	3	24/18 13/11	+0.200 ( -0.074)
			56.1 14.3 0.5 - 43.9 13.4 0.4
			3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
	6	3	24/22 13/7	+0.189 ( -0.085)
			54.9 15.7 0.6 - 45.1 12.5 0.3
			3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]

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